Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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I wouldn't exacty call it a trick. More like a waste of time.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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Nick,it is my bread and butter trick.
If you dont like the apples dont shake the tree
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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Nick,it is my bread and butter trick. LMAO!! That's what I would tell all my competition too. Next season you'll go out and find 1/2 dozen traps with tin foil around the pan near all your sets and still catch all the coon.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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Nick you are da man brotha
If you dont like the apples dont shake the tree
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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I put auto body repair tape on mine. Lasts longer and sticks better IMO. Mink
It takes 1 tree to make 1000 matches, but 1 match to burn 1000 trees. - Unknown.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
[Re: minkmaster]
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Oh yes and it does work. Put in about 2 inch flowing water and stake well Mink
It takes 1 tree to make 1000 matches, but 1 match to burn 1000 trees. - Unknown.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
[Re: minkmaster]
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Why not use a pocket set? or a smear set? or a fish stick set? or a PVC set?
Those sets will outproduce a tinfoiled pan set every time.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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12/20/07 11:13 PM
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You do have a point but its fun to do teh foil trick. They will learn in time :). Mink
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
[Re: minkmaster]
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I think it's fun to actually catch coon.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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I think it isn't a very good use of time. If you talk to the guys that pile up the fur (nick) they will all tell you to put in the quickest set with the least amount of tools. 100 simple quick sets will outproduce 25 perfectly constructed time consuming sets.
Just stating my opinion.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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Yes Nick, but they will learn. The pocket will out produce it and doesnt take long, but the foil is a change up for heavily trapped areas. Mink
It takes 1 tree to make 1000 matches, but 1 match to burn 1000 trees. - Unknown.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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I tired the foil trick for a few times and never caught a thing. had a discussion with my father-in-law and he says that is a great set. he loves it.
so I tried it again this year. Foil oover pan in 1-2 inches of riffles. there happend to be a high back on the side of the creek, so I put a little lure on a stick and poked it in the mud.
2nd day a nice coon was waiting there for me. I put the foil on at home and these sets are quick to make. I add them into my line and figure that coon can check pocket sets with lure, or find the foil....either way a coon is a coon.
nothing works evertime, but I will make one tomorrow when I reset just becaue of this thread.
SMACK DADDY!!!!
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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What about making a pocket and luring like normal, but put foil on teh pan so that the coon is intrigued by the lure, looks in that dirrection, and sees the foil. I guess you would have to make your set in shallow water but still, wouldnt hurt would it? Mink
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
[Re: minkmaster]
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Yes Nick, but they will learn. The pocket will out produce it and doesnt take long, but the foil is a change up for heavily trapped areas. Mink Dead coons do not learn anything.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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12/20/07 11:38 PM
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T-Rex- Put me down for 0 lol. Nick-Are you a dead coon? NO! Do you know if the ycan learn? NO! LOL Mink
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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What about making a pocket and luring like normal, but put foil on teh pan so that the coon is intrigued by the lure, looks in that dirrection, and sees the foil. I guess you would have to make your set in shallow water but still, wouldnt hurt would it? Mink For one, I think it would be another waste of time to add the foil. If you dig the pocket and bait/lure like normal. WHY add the foil? I think it would just make it more likely to have your trap flipped or snapped. Because that coon knows something is down there so he will fiddle around trying to find it. He may get your chain and miss him all together. If you just do the pocket normal and bed the trap WITHOUT the foil he will be clueless when he comes to work the pocket. Nick is 100% correct, DEAD COONS DON'T LEARN!
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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12/21/07 01:22 AM
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I will sometimes use this along with my pocket sets when my baits being stolen every day. Just add foil to the pan of my trap. The raccoon goes for the hole in the bank but the foil catches it's eye and whammo. No more stolen bait and a pelt in my shed. I wouldn't use this all the time but it has caught me a few frustrating coon. Dan Oh yea, I run about two pounds of tention on my coon traps and when I use the foil on the pan I set the tention so that the pan falls on it's own weight. when the coon grabs at it I want it to fire as soon as he hits the pan.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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What about making a pocket and luring like normal, but put foil on teh pan so that the coon is intrigued by the lure, looks in that dirrection, and sees the foil. I guess you would have to make your set in shallow water but still, wouldnt hurt would it? Mink For one, I think it would be another waste of time to add the foil. If you dig the pocket and bait/lure like normal. WHY add the foil? I think it would just make it more likely to have your trap flipped or snapped. Because that coon knows something is down there so he will fiddle around trying to find it. He may get your chain and miss him all together. If you just do the pocket normal and bed the trap WITHOUT the foil he will be clueless when he comes to work the pocket. Nick is 100% correct, DEAD COONS DON'T LEARN! If you push your chain into the mud he shouldn't find the chain to flip your trap. When I use this set I use it in shallow water about 2 inches deep. I guess they think the shiney pan is a fish in the shallow water ready to swim away and the coon practicly pounces on it if it's hungry enough.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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Tried this when I was 11 years old with no success. Haven't had the urge to try it again 27 years later. I think I fisrt read about this in the book 'Where the Red Fern Grows'
There's too many faster, easier, and more efficient ways to competitively trap raccoon which makes this set impractical to me. Maybe I'm missing out on those few coon who only have eyes for a shiny shad or creek chub in a perfect eddy of clear stream water 2-3 inches deep. My mud slicked pocket set with a trail of fish oil, bait and lure probably gets passed by from these 'wise old coon'...
I'll take my chances on keeping to what I've found to work over the years. My raccoon numbers have increased every year and I've introduced new methods and sets that have also worked. Besides, most of the drainage ditches, marshes, and creeks I trap have water that is usually the color of chocolate milk come trapping season.
What do I know though...just a newbie here giving my 2 cents worth. Oh, I don't use the rubber crawfish on the pan trick either.
Use what works for you though as I am not saying this won't catch a raccoon. I just feel it is not worth my time to make a set that focuses on only ONE of the 'coon's senses when a baited and lured pocket, pvc, or dirt hole appeals to them all.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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I think I'm going to try what Dan talked about. I got a large culvert set where a sand bar runs all the way up to the entrance of the culvert. I have a trap sitting where the wall and the sandbar come together leading down into the water. I have got my bait cleaned for 3 straight days. I have repositioned bait and trap to try to draw him to it, but he gets around it daily. I might throw some foil just for grins and see what happens!
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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I put out 8 traps with foil over the pan a few years back and had 8 coons the next morning...its quick and it works ecpecially if you don't have alot of time and are tired of digging holes for all your yote and fox sets...I also thought it would not work on a cloudy night but.....I have only had one weekend this year (and it was very cloudy) that i have been able to trap and put out 5 sets just for fun....4 dirt holes and 1 foil over the pan..I know its only one coon but i am %100 on the foil over the pan trick
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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Sniper, I have set it up 3 different ways the last 3 days with no luck. Its like he know where the trap is at and he goes right on around. If I set left he goes right, I set right he goes left, I tried splitting the difference, He walked bowlegged and got around??? Whatever he is doing, it is working for him. And Kentucky doesn't allow you to gang set. No traps with in 10' of each other. I got track up to with in 2-3 inches every morning but, he gets around.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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12/21/07 10:34 AM
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I use it just for a change, you can set it in shallow running water and nothing freezes, not the trap or any bait. Just make sure your trap fires on a hair trigger.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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It's not a trick and not a waste of time.It's just another set in the coon trappers arsenal. It works on crossovers well and Like Dan said. RD
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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They can't smell food under water. IMO they use all their senses to find food. Ears,nose,eyes,feet&tounge. RD
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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I never tried it in total dark, just when there is light, but if you have the extra trap it only takes about 2minutes max, throw it out and let it sit until there is moon lite, its just one more odd in your favor.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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They can't smell food under water. IMO they use all their senses to find food. Ears,nose,eyes,feet&tounge. RD All the more reason to place it in a P O C K E T.
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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When a coon comes to water they're walking the edge in and out of the water,looking for food. When they see the foil they're probly a couple in. from it. Not to hard for an animal with nocternal eyes to see it in the dark. They feed on crawfish,minnows,shiners, salamanders and such all in the dark. RD
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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They can't smell food under water. IMO they use all their senses to find food. Ears,nose,eyes,feet&tounge. RD All the more reason to place it in a P O C K E T. Like Dan Allen said it works in the pocket. Rd
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Re: foil on the trap pan trick?
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Wow..this post has gone a looonnnggg way on a method I thought was never proven to catch anything. I'm glad it works in Texas because it's a waste of time around my area. Any of you guys who use this method use rubber frogs or crawfish wired to the pan too?
I heard you can drill a 1 1/2 inch hole in a solid log, drive 6-7 nails around the sides at an angle so they are in the log but the points are all in the hole. You then take pieces of tin foil and roll them in balls about the size of nickels. Put 4-5 shiny foil balls in the hole, which I forgot to mention, should be 5-6 inches deep.
Ol' Masked Bandit reaches in to grab the shiny pieces of foil and when he pulls his hand out the tapered nails prevent him from withdrawing his hand. He won't let go of the foil ball for some reason and will be waiting for you in the morning. Sharpen your knives because you'll need it. Along with the foil on the pan trick, I believe this combination could be deadly on the local raccoon population...
I had out 140 of the find solid log, drill hole, drive nails, foil balls sets out last year with great success. Only problem was I had $500 wrapped up in extension cords to reach from my truck's cigarette lighter to the sets to power my drill. The rechargeable ones don't cut it with a 1 1/2" auger bit.
Good luck trying this awesome set. Have fun and take care....
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