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Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial #4140547
11/27/13 11:04 PM
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Glands are collected after the animal has been pelted and while it is hanging vertically by the rear feet.

ANAL GLANDS:
When skinning, make a semi-circular cut around the vent of the animal so that there is only ¼” of fur (preferably less) around the edge of the vent. When making the cut, it is extremely important to angle the point of the blade away from the center of the vent. This will ensure that the scent glands remain attached to the underside of the vent and are not punctured or damaged. Once skinning is complete, a cut should be made between the vent and the testes (vagina on a female) and the vent and attached glands can be pulled away from the carcass exposing some of the intestine. The pair of pea sized scent glands are located on either side of the vent, and are sometimes bluish in color. At this point, one can use a sharp blade and trim the excess skin and fur from the vent if desired. Next, cut the intestine to the desired length. Some lure makers want the intestine as short as possible so that there is very little attached to the vent. Others may prefer 4-6” of intestine to remain attached. Be sure that the short piece of intestine connected to the vent contains no feces.

What the vent area should look like after skinning.




The pair of anal glands can be seen on the underside of the vent.




Anal rim trimmed of excess hair.




HOCK GLANDS:
The hock glands are found on the back side of each rear leg. It is located between two muscles behind the knee area. The gland is small (about the size of a pea) and is usually surrounded by fat. Spread the muscles to expose the gland and cut it and the surrounding fat free.

Hock gland location on the rear legs.




Pointing out both hock glands.




Closeup of a hock gland.




BLADDER:
The bladder is removed by making a vertical incision about 4 inches long in the center of the belly near the point where the abdomen and back legs meet. Make the cut shallow so the bladder is not punctured. Pull the bladder out, pinch it off near the top, and cut it free. Drain any urine into a separate glass jar and add the empty bladder to the gland jar. The bladder urine can be used on the trapline or later utilized as a component when formulating gland lure.

Incision in the abdomen.




Empty bladder.




TESTES:
Make a cut in the scrotum near the base of the penis and squeeze the testes out of the scrotum.

VAGINA:
Pull on the vaginal opening and surrounding fur while using a knife to make shallow cuts around the base of the vagina. Once the base of the vagina is free from the carcass and an inch or two of the reproductive tract and urethra is showing, cut the fur from the vagina and discard. Next, pull the vagina and reproductive tract free from the cavity.

Pair of testes squeezed from the scrotum.




NECK GLANDS:
The pair of neck glands are found at the throat area of the animal near the point where the neck meets the front legs. These glands are very small, and often hidden inside a layer of fat. Pinch each gland between your thumb and forefinger and cut free from the carcass. Sometimes, the neck glands stay attached to the pelt during the skinning process and can be collected when the pelt is fleshed.

Neck gland location.




Pointing out each neck gland.




SHOULDER GLANDS:
The shoulder glands are located at the top of each front shoulder blade toward the front. The gland is under a layer of muscle and is about the size of a lima bean. Locate the gland and pinch it between your thumb and forefinger and make a two inch incision in the muscle beside the gland near the shoulder blade. Pull the muscle away to expose the gland and cut it free.

Location of shoulder gland.




Cut made to expose shoulder gland.




Shoulder gland closeup.




Both shoulder glands removed.




GALL BLADDER:
Continue the incision into the gut cavity from where the bladder was removed all the way down to the breastbone. Locate the liver and attached to it is a greenish sac which is the gall bladder. Use a syringe and extract as much of the liquid bile from the gall bladder as possible.

Incision made to access internal organs.




Gallbladder location.




Syringe with bile.




LIVER:
Some trappers prefer some percentage of liver in the mix as it does possess a similar odor of the animal it is collected from. The decision to add liver and at what ratio is entirely up to the trapper or lure maker. I prefer to add one whole liver for every 30 animals I collect the glands from.

KIDNEYS:
Kidneys are essentially filler in a gland lure. In my opinion, the addition of too many kidneys changes the odor of the lure quite drastically. Because of this, I only add 2 kidneys to the glands of every 30 animals.




BRAINS:
Many old time gland lure formulas contained brains from a fox or coyote. Brain material contains quite a bit of fat, and if nothing else it will help to increase the ability of the gland lure formula to hold up in wet weather. To remove the brain from a fox or coyote, lay the head on a hard surface with the top of the skull facing upward. Use a hatchet to make a cut near the eyes and another at the back of the skull near the ears. These two cuts should be perpendicular to the snout. Then make a third cut in the middle of the skull (parallel to the snout) which connects the other two cuts. When finished, the cuts should form the shape of an “I”. Pry the top of the skull open like a set of double doors, and scoop the brain out with your fingers. The amount of brain material added to the gland mix is up to the preference of the individual. I personally add 4 brains to the glands from every 30 animals processed.



FOOT PADS:
Some prefer to add the foot pads from the fox to the gland mix as well.

Store glands in a clean glass jar and leave room for expansion. This jar is too full if it would be stored in a warm place.

[img:gal:27046545123d887ab6]http://www.trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2014/10/full-27046-239332-img_4288_zps69b5e797.jpg[/img]


I hope this works and everything is in the right order grin


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4140577
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Nice pictorial!!

Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4140686
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I only wish these pics were not on photobucket. We don't archive posts with pics on photobucket, because they tend to disappear from photobucket over time. This would have been a nice addition to the archives.



Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4140693
11/28/13 12:13 AM
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`thanks for the info, ill defanetly try this. does females do just as good as males?


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4140713
11/28/13 12:24 AM
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Awesome! Thank you!


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Brian Perlis] #4141024
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Paul,
When I get time I'll redo the post and upload the photos to the site. The reason I didn't the first time is I thought I might have to resize them and that would take long...


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4141090
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Yes, do females the same way but the only difference is you remove the vagina and reproductive tract instead of the testes.

I just tried uploading to the site and the pics are too big. I don't have a program on my computer that allows me to resize them easily.

Anybody out there that can help Paul out? One would have to save all the images, resize them to the size the site accepts, then copy the text in my post and insert the resized pics into the text at the appropriate spots. Just repost on this thread so all the questions/comments are together. Someone out there has to be slick enough to do this easily.


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4147529
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Very well done Coon Duke !!
Thanks for sharing !




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4147972
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Great post.Iv been saving glands off my fox this year also,and this explains a few of them I wasn't sure how to find.


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4148697
12/02/13 02:48 PM
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This has got to be one of the best no-nonsense post on Trapperman. Thank you Coon Duke.


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Old Relic] #4148833
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Originally Posted By: Old Relic
This has got to be one of the best no-nonsense post on Trapperman. Thank you Coon Duke.


Right on Old Relic.
Great job again Coon Duke!
Here is a tutorial from Trapper Geer on Coyote glands .
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3539344/Coyote_glands_tutorial#Post3539344




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Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Old Relic] #4148847
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Originally Posted By: Old Relic
This has got to be one of the best no-nonsense post on Trapperman. Thank you Coon Duke.


X10.

Extremely well done!!

Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4152929
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Great pics, simple, informative - I like it!


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Mountainhunter] #4414611
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Here are some photos of ground fox glands.

These glands were ground right after the 2011-2012 season, aged two years and then reground with a fine plate.


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The jar on the left is once ground glands aged one year. The one on the right is twice ground glands aged 2 years (the glands in the above pic).



You can see how they "smoothed out" over time. The odor smooths out as well and loses the rotting smell while they are breaking down and they get "foxier". Some trappers like a gland lure made with fresh glands but I notice a better reaction to aged glands on trail cams and rotted and aged gland lures seem to work better for me on the trapline.

Last edited by tmrschessie; 10/30/14 03:40 AM.

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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4414782
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Very nice and informative!!! Do you mix all the glands together or use them separately?


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: flyfisher76544] #4414805
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You can mix them or just use the anal glands. Experiment until you find what you and the animals like. I have had luck with a few different gland mixes. I usually add a percentage of good fox urine no matter what glands I use.


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Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4415225
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Thanks!!


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Excellant post!!

Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4417948
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GREAT post!!! Thanks for taking the time to do this.

Re: Cutting Fox Glands Pictorial [Re: Coon Duke] #4419454
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Bravo on this tutorial Coon Duke!! You sure covered all the bases. For those of you who would like to earn a few extra bucks from your canine catches each season...follow these guidelines closely and you wont have a problem selling to lure makers. I would try to keep the items like kidneys, gall, brains frozen separately. As a matter of fact keeping all the glands grouped with "like glands" may be the most favorable method related to selling glands. As mentioned in other posts...excessive fur is not desirable. Coon Duke shows a properly trimmed set of anal glands.

Paul,
I think it would be worthwhile to copy the images and repost as Jpegs in the Archives smile



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