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114 Newhouse traps #4643061
09/11/14 01:27 PM
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114 Newhouse traps are in my opinion really neat traps. They were great trapping traps. Most people believe there were only three different variations, the A.T.C (Animal Trap Company) with stamped No's in the pan, the Animal Trap Company with raised letters, and the O.C. (Oneida Community). These traps can also have different state, government, and Canadian stamping on them. However, there is a fourth model that few people are aware of. Some refer to the trap as a transition trap. I don't really know what model it is, but I do know there have only been a few found. These traps have No. 4 springs on them, and No. 4 jaw posts. The chain is flat linked and the ring is like the Canadian 114 traps which are not round but rather more oblong (check out the photo) The pan will be stamped Oneida with Pat. 9- 11- 26 stamped under the Oneida. All this is stamped crossways on the pan (please checkout photo). Several years ago a collector found about six of these traps. When looking at your 114 Newhouse traps always check them out closely. You never know what may just turn up. Greg

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4643063
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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4643069
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Very cool! Thanks for posting. I just learned something new.


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4644748
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What was the jaw spread on these traps?


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4644936
09/12/14 06:45 PM
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Excellant trap, Ide heard of them but never actually seen one.

Cascade could you guess at what year these where made?

Have you seen many others and where they all exactly the same?

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4645324
09/12/14 11:34 PM
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Jwill I put this trap in storage and can't get at it. I believe the jaw spread is the same as a regular 114. Lots of mink, Ive only had this one in my hands. I bought it several years ago at one of the Western Nationals. Greg

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4660643
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Is there a book just on the 114?


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4660752
09/24/14 08:04 PM
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what can you tell me about this one I just picked up





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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4661243
09/25/14 01:29 AM
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Great looking A.T,C, 114, the condition is outstanding.

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4661271
09/25/14 03:17 AM
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I had a gov stamped 114 that I sold. I'm still sick about it. I have a backup tho and it's almost as nice but the history isn't as good


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4661914
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Fishguts,since those traps are in good condition,look those traps over closely for stampings.I hear if you find two bears dancing with each other stamped on the trap it is more valuable.


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4661930
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yup one of the first things i looked for was standing or dancing bears, didnt see any. but they are in for a tooth brush cleaning and maybe something will show up. but if not im still walking on cloud nine with the way they are. it was hard to get to sleep the night i went and seen them, i had to get cash and the next day i was worried they would be gone.


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4662195
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Although I've never even set a 114, I agree, it's a near perfect size designed trap.
Width of a number 4 NH. Height of a 4 1/2. Assembled with heavy wolf trap parts.
Minus the teeth, if still in production, I bet there would still be trappers singing their
praises.

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4662212
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First collector trap I ever purchased was a 114 from an old trapper from Billings MT. He had used them.
Guess that one started this affliction.

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: 2 TRAPS] #4662356
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Originally Posted By: B.E.K. TRAP TAG
Is there a book just on the 114?

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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4662607
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???


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: 2 TRAPS] #4662703
09/25/14 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: B.E.K. TRAP TAG
???


I believe he's referring to Cascade's seemingly limitless knowledge of the 114. So much so that he is much like a book of info.



Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4662742
09/26/14 01:06 AM
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Thank you, Paul. I really enjoy talking to people about old traps and their history. Fishguts, you most likely will not find standing bears on a 114. The standing bears came out around 1911 to 1915, and the 114's were made from 1936 till 1966 according to what I've read. On 4 1/2 Newhouse traps the only standing bears would be on Canadian traps and they would be dancing bears. Greg

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4662794
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thanks cascade ya my 114 doesn't even have anything on the springs, I was praying the 5 did but that would probably put it to early for the bears. on what traps and why did they put the bears?


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4663115
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I have seen the dancing bears on a No.1.


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4663553
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I have a 114 Oneida Community that appears to me to be authentic,but I wondered if there are any features I should look for. I hope to post pictures tommorrow. The pan is stamped,with the pat. Sept.26,11 date,there are no markings on the back of pan.I can find no other markings anywhere else on the trap. The chain is twist link (like ATC) and the swivels are smaller in size than the ones on the ATC 114 that I have.Thank you in advance for any input anyone can offer.

this pic shows the stamp that makes question the trap. The first 1 looks different from the second 1 to me, and there appears to be a semicircle under the numbers? Has anyone ever seen this?



Last edited by ringtail 60; 10/03/14 06:41 PM. Reason: added photos
Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4663751
09/27/14 12:27 AM
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Great forum no longer need a book. Going to buy one soon. Paul you carry any trap collecting books?


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Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4672911
10/03/14 07:03 PM
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ringtail, That's a beautiful No.114 O.C. trap. It's much harder to find than the later traps. I believe I've seen that circle before but, I can't remember where. Thanks for showing. Greg

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4673072
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Ringtail,nice trap! Is that one from down my way or the 114 you have had for awhile? Keep up finding the "goodies"

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4673084
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Here is another 114 O.C. that also shows the round circle with the number 114 inside, the stamp for the number must have been struck a little harder then the rest of the lettering. I have 3 O.C. 114's and they all show the same round circle with the number, just common for that particular model I guess.

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4673928
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Thank you for the input. Mr. Bill, this is the one I've had for awhile,it came from Alaska about 25-30 years ago.

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4675371
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Heres one with a different chain set up

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4675377
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Thats a super trap. Is it stamped under the pan?

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #4675452
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no its an alaskan trap

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #5413386
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I was asked about this stamped pan 114 and said I would check into it. I can't tell from the pictures already posted but this one has a pan the same size as a #4. The cross is lighter metal, the panpost is smaller, and the swivels are the small ones like used on some Victor 3Ns. Any info will be appreciated and I'll pass it on....Dale

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #5413610
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I have the circle too. I Never noticed it before. Very faint.

Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #5413845
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Here are two photos of a 114 Canadian Newhouse. Notice flat link chain and the oblong ring. The Canadian 114 Newhouse's that I've seen and I haven't seen many have had this ring and chain. Notice the photo of the bottom of the pan with Made in Canada stamped into the bottom of the pan.


Re: 114 Newhouse traps [Re: cascade] #5413990
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Thanks Greg, for posting the pics. I couldn't find it in the price guide either, pretty sure Tom has one on the shelf in the museum.

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