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big coon trapping #4581937
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i have a lady that allegedly has 60Lb coon and i have no idea how to take care of this problem i am thinking big big live traps? any ideas thanks!

Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4582126
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Don't hold your breath! We've probably caught more than thirty thousand raccoon and the biggest one was 43 pounds and the second

biggest 37. An extra extra large coon probably weighs 29 pounds. Course we don't put our thumb on the scale either.

Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4582474
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Geez! 29,37,43 and 60 lb coons. Lol! Y'all keep them up North. These 10 lb coons down here do enough damage.


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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4582696
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Well said North40R! Since I get paid the same for a 9 pounder as I do for a 29 pounder, the thrill of catching large raccoons has

been disappearing at a faster rate, the older I get!

Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4582735
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I have trapped 30 pound coon, but 15 pounds of the wt. was the dirt they hauled into the trap.


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I have trapped 30 pound coon, but 15 pounds of the wt. was the dirt they hauled into the trap.


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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4583133
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On some of the trap models if the door is bumped the door will fall. You might want to make sure the cage is tall enough if you use one of those models. Maybe at least 15 to 16 inches.


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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4583181
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Kirk, you and I have not got into an argument about anything until now. Your raccoon statement is one of the dumbest things I've seen

and I'm reasonably sure that it's Comstock motivated. Before I knew either you or Jim existed, I told the world that almost any sized

raccoon that can be caught in a 10x12 cage, can be caught in a 9x9x26 inch cage. That statement still stands. And those little coons

you have in Georgia can probably be caught in skunk cages. If your raccoons need 15 or 16 inch cages, they must be walking on their

hind feet standing up. I will listen to you talk about beaver because you know a lot more than I do but selling over-sized traps for

raccoon is just dumb: Not only for the buyer but the raccoon tends to hurt himself more in an over-sized cage.

Re: big coon trapping [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4583209
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Kirk, you and I have not got into an argument about anything until now. Your raccoon statement is one of the dumbest things I've seen

and I'm reasonably sure that it's Comstock motivated. Before I knew either you or Jim existed, I told the world that almost any sized

raccoon that can be caught in a 10x12 cage, can be caught in a 9x9x26 inch cage. That statement still stands. And those little coons

you have in Georgia can probably be caught in skunk cages. If your raccoons need 15 or 16 inch cages, they must be walking on their

hind feet standing up. I will listen to you talk about beaver because you know a lot more than I do but selling over-sized traps for

raccoon is just dumb: Not only for the buyer but the raccoon tends to hurt himself more in an over-sized cage.


The original post said he had an extremely large coon to catch. Most people don,t want to spend a lot of money on a trap especially if they have to pay shipping. So when using a trap for maybe one animal they might want to save money. So I was making a suggestion so as to a recommendation based on experience. He could buy a large duke or a large freedom brand and get it shipped cheaper than one of mine. The trap could be bought locally. How the trap functions dictates how it is best set.

He might even set the trap elevated so the coon would go up into the trap making the opening appear larger and less likely for the animal to bump the door. Maybe he has a trap that will work especially if the trap is set to where the animal goes "up" into it.


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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4583267
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I really don't think you have a 60 pounder to catch more like 20. my biggest was 35 and a 32 and have never come close again. a 22 pounder will look a bear to folks that are not use to seeing coon running around. set the trap and catch the coon.


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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4583303
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It would be a good time to have a camera on the set. Then you would see what came up and how it reacted.


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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4583326
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Don't get the wrong idea Kirk. If the guy had to choose between Duke, Freedom, or yours, it should be yours, no matter how much extra

the cost. Since it usually takes three northern raccoon to weigh 60 pounds, I'm thinking along the lines of normal sized animals.

Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4583919
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Come on guys a 60lb coon....how many times have you been told by a client that "this coon won't fit in your cage"? I'm sure lots, experience will tell you those giant coons are as hard to find as obami's birth certificate. Just buy standard coon size cages and trap those standard 11-15lb coons and when you get on a job with a monster...well an 18lb coon will fit too lol. Listen to these Midwest guys with years under their belts, you will get monsters occasionally but they still fit in standard cages. In 20yrs I have gotten 2 over 30 and when you get one you will stare in awe at the size of it.


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And a 30 pounder will still fit in a standard size cage, he will fill it up a bit, but still fit. If you bait him right, he will go in.


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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4584446
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i said that she has them allegedly i haven't actually caught one yet but they live in an old shed surrounded by cornfields and irrigation ditches these aren't city coons!
i have caught 45 lb coon several times this year i had a 49 incher this spring that weighed 41 and another that was a 34 incher that weighed 32 lbs all in a havahart live trap they get big around here and are well fed and not bothered. these are North Western coons that grow big and mean!

Thanks for all the input

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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4584516
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Paul that was one of the dumbest replies ever written you owe Kirk an apology. Adding your knowledge to a thread doesn't have to tear down someone else's.


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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4584550
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You are absolutely right, Mr. Brooker. I apologize sincerely. Now if you would tell me exactly which part of my post you would have

me further apologize even more for, I would be happy to do it.

P.S. If you could use your considerable sway in this business to make it able for me to trap 30,000 coyotes and cottontails, I would

gladly send you a rather large check along with my apologies.

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Re: big coon trapping [Re: Mabey Trapper] #4584723
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Once again, I am more than a little surprised. I have never ever caught any of those big, fat, humungous raccoons in the country.

(And I used to raccoon hunt fairly regularly) Those city raccoons that Mabey is referring to, are the ones that squeeze themselves

out of the nearest sewer, waddle across the street to McDonalds and gorge themselves on Big Macs. All of the biggest raccoons that

we've ever caught came from the city, not the country. In the country nobody asks the the raccoons; "Would you like fries with that?"

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Once again, I am more than a little surprised. I have never ever caught any of those big, fat, humungous raccoons in the country.

(And I used to raccoon hunt fairly regularly) Those city raccoons that Mabey is referring to, are the ones that squeeze themselves

out of the nearest sewer, waddle across the street to McDonalds and gorge themselves on Big Macs. All of the biggest raccoons that

we've ever caught came from the city, not the country. In the country nobody asks the the raccoons; "Would you like fries with that?"


It is Idaho Falls. Look at his location. Where he is they grow very high yields of corn , potato, beets, alfalfa and more. Higher TDN on average than other areas of the U.S. with a lower lignin content. The elevation is around 4000'. The climate, elevation, and food supply is one of the best areas in the U.S. for large coon. Go about 80 miles north east and your in a completely different situation.
Spent a little time there about 12 years ago buying dairy heifers for a farm in Kansas. One of the most productive areas for farming I have ever seen and I use to spend 4 months out of the year, for years, on farms in the Midwest. Some of the best farmers and nicest people I have ever met in my life.


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I have to admit I haven't caught big monster "city coon" myself, maybe 18lb or so. My biggest have came from hog feed mills (paylene I would guess) and a barn 20ft from an apple press. Just goes to prove junk food is not good for you lol.


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