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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4568779
07/22/14 09:20 PM
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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4569171
07/23/14 05:26 AM
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Has any one converted coil springs to long spring?

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4569262
07/23/14 08:21 AM
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On those Bridger 5 DLS it is sometimes hard to get a beaver out on dry ground. Anyone center swivel them to drown in less water? Would like to see your method of attaching.

The U spring hooks are easily made out of nails BTW.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Ringbill5196] #4569434
07/23/14 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
On those Bridger 5 DLS it is sometimes hard to get a beaver out on dry ground. Anyone center swivel them to drown in less water? Would like to see your method of attaching.

The U spring hooks are easily made out of nails BTW.


PIT center locators would be an easy enter swivel for the Bridgers.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Warmutt] #4569491
07/23/14 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: Warmutt
In my limeted expieriance I love how easy it is for me to set long springs, bed long springs, and their great holding power. Which leads me to my only bugaboo about them. When I use my Bridger #5 double longs for beaver trapping they're a joy to set and bed, but a real PIA to get a 40 lbs + beaver out of them when I make back foot catches.

With a coil spring I just throw the swampy booger on its back, put my thumbs on the base and use my fingers to compress the springs enough to release the back foot. With by Bridger's it become a dis-jointed contortion act for me on a sloppy river bank. Anyone here know what I'm talking about and have a fix?


I typically use the bottom of my knee to main frame of trap. This way as the springs are being compressed the weight of the critter pulls it free from the trap.

Doing it with a live otter in it is a little tricky.

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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4569589
07/23/14 01:30 PM
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Drain, Oregon
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JC Connor's makes the base plate for the number five. The bridger LS's base plate doesn't come out to the end
of the frame so I had to place a nut under each end of the new base plate before I welded it to the trap.

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This is the way I roll with these bridger #5. They are modified to hold an occasional cougar I get killing my sheep.


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http://www.sheepprotectioninformation.info/modification/bridger_num_five/

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4570053
07/23/14 07:39 PM
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Drain man are you using lug offset or are you cutting an off set in?


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4570820
07/24/14 10:46 AM
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Drain, Oregon
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I ordered it with offset, filed them down and straightened the curve in the jaw that kept one side from meeting up with the other.
I also ground on the welded lug to get the lamination strip over by the edge of the jaw

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4570948
07/24/14 12:49 PM
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Looks like it will be up to the task


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4580609
07/30/14 08:24 PM
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Drain, Oregon
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Im looking into some factory offset jaws I can put on the #5 bridger LS.
It looks like MB750 offset jaws are very close to the size just riveted onto the frame.
Modifying the #5 bridger LS to except the MB750 offset jaws wouldn't be that hard.

I emailed Rob Cavin at MTP and ask him if he would consider putting out the bridger #5 LS and coil spring traps with factory offset jaws.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: jayirvinh] #4595402
08/09/14 09:33 PM
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Drainman,
Do the rivets for the 750 jaws fit in the holes in the Bridger 5 frame or do you need to drill the holes out?

Also, do you have an exact outside jawspread measurement on that trap?


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4595690
08/10/14 01:00 AM
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I just got my first longsprings in Friday and can't wait to get my mods done and get them set. I ordered 2 #4 1/2 Sleepy Creeks for beaver and 2 #3 offset jaw Sleepy Creeks for land trapping.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4595764
08/10/14 05:45 AM
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I've read through a bunch of this and saw no mention of Newhouse traps. I have a pile of 4's and most still have very strong springs even though some are probably pushing 100 years old. Did they just make better springs in the old days or what?


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Elkguy] #4595870
08/10/14 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: Elkguy
I've read through a bunch of this and saw no mention of Newhouse traps. I have a pile of 4's and most still have very strong springs even though some are probably pushing 100 years old. Did they just make better springs in the old days or what?


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Coon Duke] #4596212
08/10/14 01:34 PM
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Drain, Oregon
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The MB750 coil spring offset jaws would not work on the Bridger #5 special LS. the stock bridger LS jaws are tapered at the bottom.
I tried to grind them down but the trap wont fire. the jaws have to be narrow where they attach to the frame.
the springs wont come up easily past the riveted jaws. to get them to work would be to much fabrication when ya can buy a sleepy creek with offset jaws.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4596378
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Question what is desired in the trap, whats wrong with trap , how easy is it to fix, and do they make a trap that way already, these are questions we should ask, imo I kind of get caught in trap myself if I do this to trap it would be better sometimes yes most times no. But there is some very talented people, here if and some valuable insight,
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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4596406
08/10/14 04:26 PM
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I'm not picky, I just want a Bridger #5 LS with factory offset jaws and the chain off the spring and onto the frame.
Why Bridger LS? I like there springs and the price of there traps.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4597087
08/10/14 11:03 PM
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A Duke #5 DLS is center swiveled PIT pan. A little work with the torch and you have off-sets. I sand the jaw faces off to make them look pretty. This might be a cheaper alternative to the SC offset. I just finished a SC 4.5 off-set 3/4" thick jaws. I like the trap but it is the only DLS I can not set by hand. I will be using setters and clips my shoulder just says no way. I still need to work the pan over a little but I think it will hold a Yeti if he ever steps in the darn thing.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4597253
08/11/14 12:57 AM
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I was raised up using ls traps, my grandpa & my dad both used em, today I use both ls & cs, IMO ls bed alot better, more stable, people that say they are a pain to bed may be just a little lazy. I inherited my dad & grandpa's traps when they passed & they still work very well, they took care of them, a few had to have spring work but other than that it's all good to go, thats the way they are if you take care of them they'll last longer than cs. My go to trap for water trapping! cool


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #4677322
10/06/14 10:12 PM
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TTT for ojseidel

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