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Staking In Water #418723
11/18/07 05:18 PM
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How do you stake in water with a bottom of mud and sand mixture?

Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner] #418727
11/18/07 05:21 PM
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I would bring something large and heavy so the animal you are trying to trap cant move it and tie the chain to it


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Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner] #418728
11/18/07 05:21 PM
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i use a wood stake about 16 inch long on all the water traps and sand bottom you have to find something to wire the trap to, whether its a log,tire,root or what ever, good luck
mike

Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner] #418729
11/18/07 05:21 PM
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What kind of critters are you aiming to catch?

I usually use 24" rebar stakes. Sometimes I'll use Berkshires Soft Bottom cable stakes. There work good around beaver dams.

Re: Staking In Water [Re: Creektrapper] #418739
11/18/07 05:28 PM
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I make what I call a "boot stake" which has a 4" square flat head as opposed to a 1/2 inch bar, such as a T-bar. It is much easier to shove in with your foot underwater. I have also used Iowa disposible stakes (or similar types), with a long driver.
One trick I have used is by using a drowner and looping it back into the bank in a u shape. Never had an animal get back to the bank. They will all be out in the current, drown! This is something I came up with for rocky creeks, where you couldn't get a stake in, if you tried.

Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY] #418782
11/18/07 05:49 PM
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Well im going after coon but i had a beaver pull out today.

Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner] #418854
11/18/07 06:40 PM
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I got into that today. Lots of good locations but I couldnt get anything to hold. I have some disposable stakes i made outa metal conduit that are eight inchs long and they work great in those mucky bottoms but i left them at home. I even tried double stakes with 24" rebar and no way it was gonna hold a beaver.
shane


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Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss] #418862
11/18/07 06:44 PM
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pogos
2" w/ 18" of cable.
never had a pullout w/ them.


Re: Staking In Water [Re: coonhusker] #419079
11/18/07 08:55 PM
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pogo's are all i use..just like coonhusker, i love them and have never had one budge a pogo. also i like it cuz if i can get a bar thru the cable, i can usually pull them out..given a little effort.


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Re: Staking In Water [Re: baker] #419097
11/18/07 09:02 PM
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Hard to beat a good wood stake. Kinda depends on how loose the bottom is with the sand. Else I like long t-bar stakes

Re: Staking In Water [Re: SNIPERBBB] #419108
11/18/07 09:07 PM
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In the right condition...a T-Bar is hard to beat! ;\)

Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY] #419111
11/18/07 09:10 PM
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true lol. Though I like to keep the weight down and wood stakes are generally lighter than rebar :P Everything has its limits.

Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY] #419113
11/18/07 09:11 PM
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lt grey i think ill make some ones like you mentioned with the 4 in flat stock. thanks for the tip.




Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy] #419119
11/18/07 09:13 PM
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Pogo's were useless where i was today. Or my 24" were anyway.
shane


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Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss] #419197
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double staking is the way to go, get a butterfly double staking device

Re: Staking In Water [Re: ketchikan] #419218
11/18/07 09:56 PM
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A DRY wood stake will swell considerably when it is driven and be darned hard to pull.

Lt grey, tell me more about that U shaped drowner, I'm having a hard time getting my brain around it. Sounds like something I could find useful.


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Re: Staking In Water [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #419233
11/18/07 10:02 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye
A DRY wood stake will swell considerably when it is driven and be darned hard to pull.

Lt grey, tell me more about that U shaped drowner, I'm having a hard time getting my brain around it. Sounds like something I could find useful.

the way i understood it was a long piece of cable from one bank to the other looped around something.




Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy] #419267
11/18/07 10:19 PM
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The way i took it was both ends of the drowner cable was anchored to the same bank. It would hang in the middle of the cable cause it would have no tension past the middle to slide anymore. And use in current. My take anyway. ketchican, double stakes would not hold either. My creeks are dry with just a little water infront of dams. Mar up to your knees muddy. Only thing i could use today on that creek was log/drags for coon and mink, and driveing stakes thru old logs of dams to anchor snares.
shane


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Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss] #419272
11/18/07 10:20 PM
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I didnt get the boot stake though. Is the 4"x4" like a cap on the stake or welded to the side near the bottom like a fin (like the things on metal fence post)?
shane


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Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy] #419276
11/18/07 10:24 PM
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You should be trapping about the same soil type as me (pure sand) I stake with a 48" t top rebar stake. You will lose a beaver every now and then but not very often. You should be able to push the stake in by hand without pounding.

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