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#4168402 - 12/11/13 07:34 AM Shock springs on coyote traps?
7mmSendaro Online   content
trapper

Registered: 11/13/13
Loc: Central Illinois
I am newly back into trapping after a 30 year break. Learning a lot here just watching and reading. I have seen several videos and books that advocate using in-line springs on coyote traps. I will be setting out my coyote line in a week or so using MB550 4coil offsets.

Does anyone here use shock springs? Advantages\disadvantages?

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#4168414 - 12/11/13 07:38 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
MICOYOTEHUNTER Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/08/08
Loc: Albion, MI
I like them. They help take some power from the yote to prevent stake pumping. All my k9 traps are 550 and 650 offsets. When I buy them I cut the chain and and 2 mb crunch proof swivels and a shock spring. I love the setup.

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#4168476 - 12/11/13 08:21 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
the Blak Spot Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/10
Loc: central arkansas
I use double rebar stakes and check every 24 hrs so i dont see the need for the added expense. It seems the shock springs would depend on your staking system and your length of chain set up and type of trap used. I use offset blake & lamb, victor, and sleepy creek longsprings so the yotes are not going anywhere but in the back of the truck. My 2 cents.
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#4168620 - 12/11/13 10:00 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
LoessHillsArcher Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/29/12
Loc: Western IA
I use them - I've got two kinds. The JC Connor springs are way nice and stronger. The 2nd kind I have are very weak and probably don't do much good. I don't think I'll bother putting them on any coyote traps in the future. Just run a little pan tension and get good pad catches and you'll be ok (in my opinion)
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#4168753 - 12/11/13 11:39 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
Boone Liane Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/10/10
Loc: MT
Strong anchor with short chain and you dont need em.

I dont like em. One more thing to have to bed under the trap.
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#4168931 - 12/11/13 01:23 PM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
WampusCat Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/19/11
Loc: Kansas
Only disadvantages are $$$ and one more thing to bed under the trap. Buy the good Ones from Conner and they will last for a long long time.

The advantages are obvious. Not to mention more than once I have used the springs as leverage while showing landowners my equip when gaining permission. Perception is everything!
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#4168946 - 12/11/13 01:32 PM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: WampusCat]
7mmSendaro Online   content
trapper

Registered: 11/13/13
Loc: Central Illinois
Thanks guys, lots of good perspectives. I do have the Connor springs on hand. I think I will put them on a couple and see how big a pain they are to bed (I was wondering about that).

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#4169634 - 12/11/13 06:45 PM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
Outlaw99 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/28/13
Loc: sw iowa
If ur using good earth anchors, I see no reason. Use the saved money to expand your bait and lure selection. Mb550s will do their job on their own if u can get the yotes to step on the pan
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#4169758 - 12/11/13 07:21 PM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
johnnyreb Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/08/09
Loc: North GA.
I used them for one season. They just get in the way when you're bedding your trap.

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#4169924 - 12/11/13 08:16 PM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
Hatcherpass Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/03/11
Loc: upstate NY/Alaska
I use them (PIT) close to the base plate and rest the loose jaw on spring when bedding, works good for me

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#4170278 - 12/11/13 10:51 PM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
chris_tn Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/01/09
Loc: West, TN
I have them on all my land traps and started with the pits and now have all JC Connor tbar springs. It helps take some of power out of their pulls and it also should help reduce damage to animals shoulder. They don't get in my way when I bed my traps actually I put it under the loose jaw and use it to help stabilize it.
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#4170384 - 12/12/13 01:55 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
rookietrapper2 Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/03/13
Loc: wisconsin
This is my first year and I ran the mb450 with the (PIT) spring. I agree with above statements of it being harder to bed the traps. I got two yotes so far and love the setup. Worth the extra 2 minutes to bed IMHO. Thinking of making the switch to mb550 but I still will run a spring setup. Maybe its just me but I feel any advantage I can have in order to retain my catch I will use. Then again remember I am a rookie and the two I caught might have been dumb luck.
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#4170430 - 12/12/13 05:48 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
SULLDOG Online   content
trapper

Registered: 03/03/11
Loc: pennsylvania
advantages= if toe caught the spring helps, anchor weak or soil giving way due to moisture, less damage to animal as far as pumping and pulling

disadvantage=cost,extra hardware,little more time,bedding headache

as you already know there are so many variables in canine trapping. i have found that if its not absolutely essential , i dont use it. Now that doesnt mean it doesnt work, it means theres a method to the madness.

i have used them....i will use them again....most of the time , i dont , when i do, i go j.c connor and when it gets weak i use them on sets where i construct and expect fox to hit them due to the non compairable strength pulls.

essential...no help.....sure

try them and you make the call. i have alomost given up on researching equiptment. ALL ends the same and comes down to only one opinion that matters.............YOURS!

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#4170721 - 12/12/13 09:39 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
bdp603 Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/17/12
Loc: NH, USA
Dont think I need to add to the advantages/disadvantages with all the replies,seems covered. I use them on all my coyote traps and they can be a pain to bed under the trap. The last few sets Ive put in, I just cut a small trench with my hatchet(just big enough for the chain/spring) going off to the side of the trap bed and anchored it there...saved a lot more time then dealing with getting it under the trap just right and getting the trap to bed solid(also didnt use up nearly as much waxed dirt doing it that way).

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#4170753 - 12/12/13 10:02 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: 7mmSendaro]
Outlaw99 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/28/13
Loc: sw iowa
my question for all u shock spring users is, how many of u are using good quality earth anchors vs. rod stakes? and for those of u using earth anchors, how many of u have issues with coyotes pumping them up and out?
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#4170967 - 12/12/13 11:58 AM Re: Shock springs on coyote traps? [Re: Outlaw99]
chris_tn Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/01/09
Loc: West, TN
Originally Posted By: Outlaw99
my question for all u shock spring users is, how many of u are using good quality earth anchors vs. rod stakes? and for those of u using earth anchors, how many of u have issues with coyotes pumping them up and out?

All I use is the fox hollow chain stakes and so far it's never been any problem. If the soil is that loose I will cable to a tree if possible or keep looking for another spot. Only problem I've had is getting them back out of the ground, and that isn't too bad with 4wheeler winch.
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