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#32032 - 01/10/07 09:54 PM Marten thread/archive
Top Jimmy Offline
"Assistant Speling Zcar"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Alaska, USA
I figured that after the 330 bucket set having its own thred, it might be a good idea to have Marten sets on its own thread, so they are easy to find. And seeing as many of us are spending a bunch of time on them, it would be good info for everyone.

Kusko, here are the pictures of that tip up I posted (I think on the 2nd thread):







I hope this helps someone.

For a coni, I have seen where the spring is set up to push the hook up off when it fires on the marten. That way you don't need to have the animal struggle to get the pole to swing up.

-TJ

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#32201 - 01/10/07 11:13 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Top Jimmy]
martentrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Moved to Fbks, Ak.
You didn't post an "after" pic.
mt

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#32250 - 01/11/07 12:25 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: martentrapper]
trapperjoeAK Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Chugiak/Homer, AK
Good Idea Top Jimmy. I think that it will help a lot to have the species specific info on its own threads. As long as we don't get too many threads that stuff starts getting lost. We can still do our chitchat on the Allmighty.


Here is my marten setup. I use the plant pots, but 120's. With the two springs the trap can just be held in the slots. I put one small nail through the bottom edge of the pot. And a big one down through the top at an angle. I leave an inch of this one hanging out, and I stick the wire from my prewired bait up through the center hole and wire it to this nail. I have the traps prepared with the springs cocked and a foot or so of 14 gauge on the end of the chain. Trap goes in pot, wire off to a limb, and put stick with the lure on top of the pot. Usually hang a piece of flagging too, but that is more for me finding the set. Super fast.

Checking sets, I have a 120 in one pocket and lure in the other pocket (scary, that is) jump out, and go to the set. If I have to use snowshoes it slows me down some though.











Lets see everyone else preferred marten set. I know we have seen most of them before, but it might be helpful for people if they are all in one spot.

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#32271 - 01/11/07 01:27 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: trapperjoeAK]
martentrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Moved to Fbks, Ak.
Joe, that looks like awfully warm country to be having dead marten hang around for long. You have any problem with green bellies on your marten? How often do you check?
mt

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#32272 - 01/11/07 01:29 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Top Jimmy]
Dusty Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: North Pole, AK
I'll bite.

The clip made from galvanized strapping material with a punched (not drilled) hole, drywall screw installed at home:



Trap pre-wired and ready to go:



Trap on the clip:


Bucket on the trap/clip:


Spring helping to hold the bucket on:


Set and ready to go:


it works...

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#32281 - 01/11/07 02:33 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Dusty]
trapperjoeAK Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Chugiak/Homer, AK
Has warm spells like any place martentrapper, but this season there hasn't ever been more than two or three days above freezing at a time. Most of my marten are froze solid, and I have never had any green belly. Run about a one week check on average. Those three were all from the beginning of the season when the weather was nicer. Here is a pic from last check. Don't look quite so nice and warm does it? \:\)




Dusty, I like your setup. If you run 110's, and can get the clip making down I think it is the way to go. I did get tired of wiring bait into the buckets though when I used to do it that way. I COMPLETELY agree that wiring buckets to trees is a HUGE waste of time. Nails or screws, either way but not wire.

The only thing I do not like about my way is that I have two sizes of nail, but that isn't that big of a deal. 120's take away the need for the clip, but the downfall is higher expense and I guess more weight might be an issue for some people. Plus 110s ARE a lot nicer to set.

I am sort of surprised that the buckets don't fall down when you make a catch??

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#32327 - 01/11/07 05:53 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: trapperjoeAK]
Recondo Online   content
trapper

Registered: 12/28/06
Loc: Alaska
Never have used this trap model before, was sort of curious if any one here has and what they think of them. From the looks of em I imagine you'd be swapping em out like connis when you connect. The bait goes under the hood of the trap, which is sort of like a trap and cubbie in one. They are pretty pricey, for two of these you can almost buy a DZ 120's.







The Gabry Bionic can be ratcheted with a tool for
additional power to kill marten, mink and fishers
quickly. This trap is relatively safe, as the bait
must be pulled to activate the trap.
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#32533 - 01/11/07 08:55 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Recondo]
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trapper

Registered: 12/26/06
Right now I'm useing #1 jumps on a leaning pole baited with muskrat!



I did catch one this year in a lynx cubby!





- Clint

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#32726 - 01/11/07 11:23 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Top Jimmy]
Rick Phillips Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: SE Idaho
OK, here goes again. I use newspaper tubes. I cut slots in the front to hold the springs of my 120's and secure the tube vertically on a tree with three 8-penny double-headed nails: 2 on top and one on the bottom. The double-headed nails make it easy to pull them when I get ready to move. I tie the bait in the back of the tube by running a wire around/through it and out through a 1/2" hole I bore in the back of the tube, then just wrap it around a short stick to keep it from dropping back through. Makes it easy to re-bait if I have to. I bait them at home, put a trap with a wire wrapped around it in on top of the bait and stack the tubes together. Five of them fit lengthwise in my sled, so I can haul 30 pretty easy. When setting out I wear a carpenter's nail apron to hold all my junk: nails, lure, wire, ribbon, and a hammer. I like to wire the trap to an overhead limb and swing the captured animal out away from the tree trunk, if possible. This set is totally snowproof, in my experience, and I've yet to catch a bird of any kind.

I set up the coni trigger like this:

I find this arrangement gives me a "suitcase" catch most of the time, which kills them quick. It's not uncommon to have the springs bind in the slots a little and the marten doesn't even fall out of the box.

I use this same tube on the ground for mink along streams. Set this way, You'll catch a weasel or a skunk once in awhile, and I have caught several coons by the leg in the 120. They'll chew the snot out of the box! One of my friends uses this same system and has caught several red fox by the head.


Edited by Rick Phillips (01/11/07 11:42 AM)

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#32731 - 01/11/07 11:28 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Rick Phillips]
otterman Offline



Registered: 12/24/06
Loc: SW Alaska
Rick nice pictures cept we cant see the last 2 red fox in 120s must be fun to remove I got one in a 110 and ended up taking fox and trap home and having another person pull the head out while I opened up the trap what a pain of course this was the year we got a whopping $5 for all our fox
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#32753 - 01/11/07 11:53 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: otterman]
Kusko Offline
"Mr. Mayor"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Bethel, AK
Here are some pictures of our sets. We built the boxes as we had scrap plywood and also had no idea if there were marten in the area. I'll be putting in newspaper boxes next year as they stack up a lot easier. We just made one side a little longer and they are nailed to the tree using double headed nails so we could pull them out easier.



Here is the results.

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#32772 - 01/11/07 12:10 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Kusko]
Anonymous
Unregistered

I set up just like Rick except I mount onto leaning and horizontal trees held by a bunji cord(thanks for the tip Rick!).I also bait and load the tubes at home and I can CARRY 12 on my frame pack easily.I use 110's instead of 120's and have had only one alive this year but sure it was freshly caught.


Edited by trailblazersteve (01/11/07 12:15 PM)

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#32778 - 01/11/07 12:15 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered

Here's some old pics


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#33010 - 01/11/07 03:10 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Top Jimmy]
Family Trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Homer, Alaska
This was my usual set
Conibear held on 4 nails.


Wired on Branch to keep the marten from jumping over.


Combination Marten Wolverine set.
Trigger on 330 is set wide to allow marten to enter and get caught in the 110 further down the line. Keep marten set out of reach of the 330. 330 held with nails also. A wider leaning pole.



Nice to have them hangingl


Dusty where do you get the galvanized strapping?
I looks like you must be setting your conis on the wider trigger slot. I have alway used the first but after making a few of your style holders I can see why you want to use the second. Allows the holder to be built wider and thus accomodate hammer head if you have to use a nai. I don't want to pack a screw gun.



Edited by Family Trapper (01/19/08 05:10 PM)
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#33886 - 01/11/07 09:10 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Family Trapper]
Loel Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Wasilla, Ak
I hang my tubes vertical like Rick does. I have been hanging them about three feet off of the ground.

After talking to Ted the other night, I was wondering if how high you hung your sets would determine if you cought a male or female? He said in his area the males are the only ones to climb.He also hangs his sets higher then I do. So far this year, I'm almost at 50% females. They are all juvies so far. So I was wondering if I put the sets up to say five feet off of the ground, if only the males would climb that high in a set?

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#34017 - 01/11/07 10:29 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Loel]
Arctic Trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Los Anchorage
Ok,

Heres one of mine. Not anything different, although my flower pots were a bit larger than my 120 coni, so I mounted the coni just outside the pot. Fashioned a similar coni clip made from galvinized strapping like the one shown earlier. Ran Spruce boughs through the springs to keep the Marten from jumping over, a fish head for bait, GUSTO for Lure, flagging tape and also hung a CD for an attractor.

Here is before
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And the results
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#34083 - 01/12/07 12:09 AM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Top Jimmy]
Dusty Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: North Pole, AK
Dusty where do you get the galvanized strapping?

Holaday Park - any metal place should have it.

I looks like you must be setting your conis on the wider trigger slot.

I set em wherever it fits and see absolutely no difference.

I don't want to pack a screw gun.

I just use a screwdriver - takes about 10 seconds. A 1" screw is plenty - get the coarse single thread.
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#41601 - 01/16/07 01:39 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: martentrapper]
Kusko Offline
"Mr. Mayor"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Bethel, AK
What do you think of this idea. Take a dozen 2x2's that are 8 feet long. Have your trap and bait already attached to the pole. When you get to the place where you want to make a set, nail the pole to a tree, hang a wing, apply lure and move on.

Would a 2x2 be big enough? When we check, it seems like we never have time to make new sets and I'm trying to come up with a fast way.
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#41662 - 01/16/07 02:13 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: Kusko]
takotna Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Takotna AK
Sounds like a nifty Idea Kusko, altough I would leave trap/bait off to keep everything from being an entangled mess, you could even put some flourescent paint on to mark your trail/trap.

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#41679 - 01/16/07 02:21 PM Re: Marten Sets [Re: takotna]
Kusko Offline
"Mr. Mayor"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Bethel, AK
Originally Posted By: takotna
Sounds like a nifty Idea Kusko, altough I would leave trap/bait off to keep everything from being an entangled mess, you could even put some flourescent paint on to mark your trail/trap.


Good idea. You could maybe bait it, but the chain would get all wrapped up. Dusty's coni set with the flower pot looks quick and easy.
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