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#3883836 - 07/10/13 09:46 AM Shock spring for coyotes ?
kyron4 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/13
Posts: 7
Loc: Indiana
Is it recommend to use a shock spring on a 'yote set ? If you use one do you still need to double stake ? I'm trying to decide on my chain set up and a shock spring seems a good thing to have to prevent pull outs ? -Thanks

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#3883869 - 07/10/13 10:13 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
N-R Trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 334
Loc: Louisiana
In my opinion,they are not necessary for fur trapping,especially if you are just starting out. They are very good at helping to hold coyotes at staked down sets,but,just an extra unnecessary expense for newer trappers,spend the extra money on more new or better traps,first. Good luck.

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#3883968 - 07/10/13 11:49 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
yoteguts Offline
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Registered: 07/29/08
Posts: 2408
Loc: central Illinois
Also easier on the animal. Keep in mind yotes may not be the only thing you catch. I wont set a yote trap without one. Just my opinion. But you certainly can get by without them.


Edited by yoteguts (07/10/13 07:14 PM)
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#3884130 - 07/10/13 02:09 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: yoteguts]
Leftlane Offline
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Registered: 12/02/09
Posts: 1636
Loc: Hill Country of Texas
First set I ever had spoiled me- rarely do I set a coyote trap w/o one built into the chain now.
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#3884479 - 07/10/13 05:35 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
cyacoyote Offline
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Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 100
Loc: paola,ks
did not use them for several years. in fact, last year was the first
year using, and only had one trap with the springs. bought an old
#2 monty that had one, so i left it on. looked like it helped a lot,
so i am putting them on all of my old montgomerys. and probably put
some on my montanas also, but have not decided yet.

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#3884702 - 07/10/13 07:26 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
JDTRAPPER Offline
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Registered: 11/14/11
Posts: 20
Loc: NW Pa Backwoods USA
They make a big difference in my mind, even if you are just starting out. If you're buying traps and you're after yotes why not do everything you can to make sure he's there after you catch him. And instead of double staking I'd use some type of earth anchor. But if all you have are stakes I'd still double stake. Don't be that guy and say "wish I'd have double staked that one" Hope that helps JD
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#3885632 - 07/11/13 09:45 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
Cole P Offline
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Registered: 04/25/13
Posts: 6
Loc: TEXAS
Earth anchors, pogos (I use these), etc. with shock springs and a generous amount of chain will result in some coyote's in the trap; as long as your doing your part and getting the trap in front of the coyote.

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#3887053 - 07/12/13 02:15 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
takeemmac Offline
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Registered: 01/02/11
Posts: 20
Loc: ks,marion
jmo. I wont set a foothold without a shock spring.
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#3887058 - 07/12/13 03:08 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
FEEB Offline
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Registered: 06/20/12
Posts: 6
Loc: Kittanning, Pa
How does a shock spring prevent a coyote from pulling out?
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#3887109 - 07/12/13 06:33 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: FEEB]
coyote 1 Offline
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Registered: 04/08/13
Posts: 71
Loc: michigan
Originally Posted By: FEEB
How does a shock spring prevent a coyote from pulling out?


The spring gives, so they can't get a solid pull.
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#3887143 - 07/12/13 07:14 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: coyote 1]
kyron4 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/13
Posts: 7
Loc: Indiana
Anyone know where I can guy (2) shock springs without paying $9-$10 shipping ? I'm starting small and I'm only doing two coil spring trap and 6 DP's. -Thanks

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#3887182 - 07/12/13 07:57 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
cyacoyote Offline
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Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 100
Loc: paola,ks
would check around for a supply shop. or hit a convention.
i ordered mine from f&t, but had a large order, so it was
worth it for me.

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#3887199 - 07/12/13 08:11 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: cyacoyote]
kyron4 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/13
Posts: 7
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: cyacoyote
would check around for a supply shop. or hit a convention.
i ordered mine from f&t, but had a large order, so it was
worth it for me.


I plan on making a order with needed trap supplies from Dakota Line , but they only sell them by the dozen. I will check around locally. The only Trapping supply place closed about 4 years ago.

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#3887477 - 07/12/13 11:27 AM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: coyote 1]
FEEB Offline
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Registered: 06/20/12
Posts: 6
Loc: Kittanning, Pa
Originally Posted By: coyote 1
Originally Posted By: FEEB
How does a shock spring prevent a coyote from pulling out?


The spring gives, so they can't get a solid pull.

Why is a solid pull bad for coyotes but fine for other animals?
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#3887631 - 07/12/13 01:30 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
watermann2 Offline
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Registered: 12/20/11
Posts: 1000
Loc: catskill mnts, New York
If your just starting out i wouldn't worry too much about it. i started out with stock dukes .after a yote just about chewed thru a chain i upgraded my chains and added shock springs then. I still double stake my traps after one of my 1st experiences was a pull out by a deer. after you sell some fur you can always upgrade .JMO
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#3889897 - 07/13/13 07:59 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
Cole P Offline
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Registered: 04/25/13
Posts: 6
Loc: TEXAS
I made some of my own shock springs and they have held coyotes. You can get everything at your local hardware store. I think that's 3/4" pieces of steel bent to J at the ends.


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#3889959 - 07/13/13 08:42 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
Mark June Offline
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Registered: 05/17/07
Posts: 618
Loc: La Vernia, TX
I don't use 'em on short chained rigs...
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#3889960 - 07/13/13 08:44 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
coyoteklr Offline
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Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 134
Loc: MT
I am new to this forum but have been trapping for 60 years...cats yotes,Fox,bandits and badgers
I have never had an animal pull out except a fox that I caught by one toe... I actually saw it come out when I was only a 100 yards out...using a quality trap and working working it over before it goes in the ground will save you a lot of grief... I have used just about every trap out there and I won,t give any an endorsement because a person has to find what works best for them...
There is an old book out there that deals with modifying traps ... it comes to mind that it was written by a fella named dobbins...you may have to do some digging it is old but it is worth its weight in gold.. if you follow the instructions you won't need any fancy add ons ... I've been doing trap modification demos at rendezvous for years...
Quality heavy duty swivels, good welded chain,put on a quality trap will get you off to great start... not to jump on anybody, but the picture above shows the rivets and swivels not to use...
Get the book if you can... Minnesota has crush proof swivels... I use 3swivels 2 chains


Edited by coyoteklr (07/13/13 08:48 PM)
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#3890078 - 07/13/13 09:45 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: coyoteklr]
Cole P Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/25/13
Posts: 6
Loc: TEXAS
Originally Posted By: coyoteklr
not to jump on anybody, but the picture above shows the rivets and swivels not to use...


Ouch man, I catch coyotes and bobcats on those all the time too. I guess they need to go... crazy

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#3890283 - 07/13/13 11:13 PM Re: Shock spring for coyotes ? [Re: kyron4]
coyoteklr Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 134
Loc: MT
I've seen coyotes crush those and be gone... I've also seen them tangle open up the j hook or rivet
Your right you can get lucky and not have it happen and then it will happen happen...
We have some really big and tough dogs in northern MT ... your much smaller yotes in TX
May do just fine with those...I can't see the chain so no comment... I'm not some Johnny come lately to trapping.. my comments were made to be helpful not to put someone down
End of story.
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