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#3659463 - 02/23/13 09:47 AM KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550
Rookie74429 Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/18/13
Posts: 7
Loc: Oklahoma
Im sure this has been discussed but I can't seem to find it. If there's a topic already discussing this please point me in that direction. I know all of these traps are great quality and they willl do a great job. With that being said, for you guys that have ran them for coyotes and bobcats which ones to you favor? I've heard the MB 650 can be tricky to set? I'm not sure I like the way the chain attaches to the KB and The 550 seems a little small. I'm looking at outside lam offset. Its time for me to buy a few dozen traps and I'm just looking for some last minute opinions before I invest. The main thing I'm looking for is any faults or failures you've found in these three traps. Thanks.

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#3659473 - 02/23/13 09:53 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
snowcoon Offline
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Registered: 01/12/12
Posts: 2
Loc: Boonville, MO
650s are great but as you mentioned they are a pain to set, but they lay extremely flat, setters help
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#3659474 - 02/23/13 09:54 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
kill-n-time Offline
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Registered: 02/05/12
Posts: 102
Loc: Northern, VA
The KBs are great and cause no damage. They are great for coyote and bobcat s. And the chain system the kbs have tightens up the jaws when the critter pulls and relaxes when the critters dont pull so this helps them relax more so than other traps. Butni have never used the 550 or 650s. I used the 450s and they ok

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#3659475 - 02/23/13 09:54 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
410shooter Offline
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Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 332
Loc: Indiana
The 650 is the best. Like it cause it built heavy enough to hold anything and it has a swrew and bolt to adjust pan tension where the 550 doesnt and the kb has chain problems like you said. Ounce you get used to setting the 650 you can do it blind folded.
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#3659496 - 02/23/13 10:02 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
Tim64 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 2
Loc: Pennsylvania
I run both KB 5.5 and MB 650 traps. I'm in my mid sixties and cannot set the MB 650's without the setter. With the setter it is easy. The MB 650 beds easier than the KB 5.5 but both traps are excellent. I would recommend either. I have both due to the fact that I buy used traps and got deals on both. I did install bigger chain and new swivels on the KB's.
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#3659534 - 02/23/13 10:16 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
Calvin Offline
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Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 2252
Loc: South metro, MN
Am I the only guy who steps on traps to set them still? I just step on the 650s...my feet are my setters. They work great.

I have not tried the KBs. I have, however, used the 650s Cs next to the 550s. I MUCH prefer the 650s.

I have also let fox out of the 650Cs. I was surprised I saw no "visual" damage to these little fox.


Edited by Calvin (02/23/13 10:18 AM)
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#3659548 - 02/23/13 10:26 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
15175679 Offline
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Registered: 11/29/12
Posts: 18
Loc: wisconsin
I think my next traps I buy will be kb 5.5 because you can run light pan tension for fox and still get a good pad catch on coyotes.

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#3659552 - 02/23/13 10:28 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
Rookie74429 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/13
Posts: 7
Loc: Oklahoma
Thanks for all the replies. Keep them coming. I really like the sounds of the 650 but I also like having a loose jaw like the 5.5.

I've never layed hands on a 650 but I'm not concerned about them being hard to depress. I was told that after they are set you have to depress the pan to get them into position? I've looked for videos but can't find anything on what was described to me. can someone clear it up?

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#3659555 - 02/23/13 10:29 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
Huntin SD Offline
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Registered: 05/11/12
Posts: 46
Loc: SD 16 y/o
Me to Calvin. Last year when I ordered some traps I just stepped on the levers. Its faster for me especially with cold hands.
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#3659557 - 02/23/13 10:30 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
ky canine man Offline
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Registered: 01/23/13
Posts: 211
Loc: Eastern Kentucky
I have caught fox, bobcat and coyotes on 550's
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#3659559 - 02/23/13 10:31 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
garys Offline
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Registered: 01/21/12
Posts: 44
Loc: Doniphan, MO
I step on my 650s to set them. Not a problem here in the rocks because they can't sink in the mud when setting. I have the setters and I will take them with me if I ever get to trap somewhere that has dirt.
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#3659564 - 02/23/13 10:34 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: garys]
nightstalker1 Offline
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Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 577
Loc: Upper Catskills , New York
The KB 5.5 and the MB 650 are both DOGLESS and their pans sit below the jaws.

A big plus when chasing coyotes....no bent dogs

Both are great coyote traps
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#3659585 - 02/23/13 11:00 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
Taximan Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 1080
Loc: SW Montana
The MB650 has a small,night latch notch.You can engage that when you set it or not.I can get my index finger up through the frame to pull the pan down if I want,but it isn't quite as easy as on a loose jaw trap.

I used to set them with my feet or my hands with the trap on the ground but it was always a little more awkward than loose jaw traps.You have to hold both jaws down that last little bit to get them latched.

I had bought the setters for the MB750 Wolf's and was so impressed and after a day of setting MB650's with my feet and my back was acting up,I ordered the improved,MB650 trap setters.I got them yesterday.These setters work even better than the 750 version.With the setters,you can set them when you are waist deep in water or snow or sitting on the couch watching TV if you wanted to.With the setters,you can hold the trap,both springs depressed,in one hand while you latch the pan.In 52 years of trapping,this may be the best purchase I've made.I can't recommend them enough.Here is the instruction sheet.


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#3659606 - 02/23/13 11:18 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
rawcalls Offline
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Registered: 01/12/11
Posts: 231
Loc: Nebraska
How about Coyote Cuff 33's? They look like good, solid traps but you don't hear much about them in these "best traps" discussions.

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#3659617 - 02/23/13 11:21 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
Rookie74429 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/13
Posts: 7
Loc: Oklahoma
I'm sure they are great but out of my price range.

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#3713573 - 03/19/13 10:25 PM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Taximan]
BearB8 Offline
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Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 69
Loc: Weston, WI USA
Taximan, lm not following you on the nightlatching on the 650. I have some brand new but didnt realize they are nightlatched or how to engage them ? Thanks Jeff

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#3713587 - 03/19/13 10:33 PM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
CoonNfoxtrapper Offline
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Registered: 11/29/12
Posts: 176
Loc: Iowa
If the trap is night latch you just pull the pan down until you hear a Click... thats night latching

Look on the part that u hook under the pan it should have a step in it....i dunno what to call the peice of metal But its like the dog only diffrent lol


Edited by CoonNfoxtrapper (03/19/13 10:34 PM)

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#3714018 - 03/20/13 09:41 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
TN_Trapper Offline
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Registered: 06/17/08
Posts: 242
Loc: TN
The 550 does have a dog, but it's not flat metal like most. It's round, about the size of the metal on a screwdriver. Have never had it bent, and haven't heard of anyone having that problem either. I've also never had any problems with the chain.
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#3714092 - 03/20/13 10:29 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: Rookie74429]
kill-n-time Offline
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Registered: 02/05/12
Posts: 102
Loc: Northern, VA
KBs work on both cats and yotes. I like them alot better than any other trap I have used.......

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#3714166 - 03/20/13 11:11 AM Re: KB 5.5, MB 650, and MB 550 [Re: TN_Trapper]
mjh Offline
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Registered: 12/18/12
Posts: 34
Loc: michigan
Originally Posted By: TN_Trapper
The 550 does have a dog, but it's not flat metal like most. It's round, about the size of the metal on a screwdriver. Have never had it bent, and haven't heard of anyone having that problem either. I've also never had any problems with the chain.


my dogs got bent up

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