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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3663147
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I can't comment on details as we have very few. I will put more on when I get them.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3663819
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Is USDA going to get a spending cut?


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3663834
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USDA will for sure get cut, we are not sure how much yet. Feral hogs are a huge problem and it takes money and dedication to control them. It can not be done by the private sector hunting them, it takes dedicated, professional control specialists. We started a program in my county and have removed just under 200 in 6 months.


2013/2014 season goals

Coyotes - 5/30
Bobcats - 0/10
Fox - 1/10
Ringtail - 0/2
Skunks - 1/0
Misses - 3/0

Sheds - 60/200lbs
Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3663881
02/25/13 09:33 AM
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Does NM have a no limit no season on Wild Pigs. Also is there a bounty on them?


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Getting There] #3664212
02/25/13 12:21 PM
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Everett - No limit on feral hogs, there was a law passed a few years ago when I was still a govt. guy that basically declared
them in the category of predatory animals like coyote. So no limit, the only laws pertain to no commercial hunting sales on
them to discourage enterprise from bringing more, no relocation, translocation, importation, etc....

Of course enforcement is a real tough deal with the law being enforced only by livestock inspectors (which are law enforcement
officers in this state and have been longer than any other).

Bounty systems that have been tried for feral hogs in other states, most recently fort benning georgia, resulted in a massive outlay
and people skirted the issue and it resulted in very few actual feral hogs taken. The gist was that people went into nearby columbus
georgia and bought pig tails from the butcher shop (the proof required in this case), they brought them back to benning and got
paid!

They found this out when very few tagged or collared animals that were tagged and collared on purpose were sampled out of the
population.

While bounties have worked in some cases in some regions for some animals, most often human nature creeps in, which in the
case of NM would mean driving over the TX to a hog rich area and collecting ears, tails, etc...required for proof and coming back over.

This is the same reason most of the western states dropped bounties on coyote, it was too easy to get around it and people want more
money once it gets started which means the incentive to truly remove the hogs is actually low.

Cody, spending cut wise, do you mean did they get a budget cut this year from farm bill or other normal funding? I haven't heard other
than things were very stripped down and lean months ago. I would assume you folks would have better info on that subject with the
political actions and such. Not sure myself.

Everett, I should also add that while we have a pretty large tract of National Forest Land with feral hogs down the south central portion
of the state, much of the rest of the hog population exists on private land tracts and therefore is tough to find access for most hunters.
I get calls and emails every week looking for a list of these folks to call, I send nearly all of them to hunt on public land tracts as their
best option. Our country with hogs ranges from high mountain areas with oaks and pines and springs, to cactus, mesquite country with
sparse grassland and mixed ag fields and mesas. Land ownership can be anywhere from 1,000-50,000 or 100,000 acres for one outfit.
And nearly always lock and key gates.

Justin

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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3664331
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It is amazaing what man can do to screw up thing. NO ear,tails etc. hole pigs
but that is a lot of pigs. If each state would have the same bounty maybe the people would work at home. I have heard they can become a real problem.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3664351
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You have to admire the innovative American people's behavior toward a regulation.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3664755
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3664868
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Is the sequester going to affect wildlife services, or just fire and rescue, cancer screening, teachers and other can't- live-without government services? I have heard the list of cuts but usually can't make it that far without screaming at the radio.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3664952
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andyva, I hope the sequester goes through, if for no other reason than to prove that nothing will be changed. ( I think that sometimes those of us who are conservative, tend to give everyone with a GOP by their name, a pass.)

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: andyva] #3665022
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Originally Posted By: andyva
Is the sequester going to affect wildlife services, or just fire and rescue, cancer screening, teachers and other can't- live-without government services? I have heard the list of cuts but usually can't make it that far without screaming at the radio.


Andy, I had a meeting with another fed agency today about another wildlife issue, he was mentioning they are on the block, I'm sure
they are all if one is, they are all, simple as that, how much from each is another story, but usually whether you call it sequestration or
anything else, these don't end up happening, guess we'll see.....

Justin

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3666648
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I need your help. USDA Wildlife Services is a federal agency that competes against my company. Because they are supported by your tax dollars they can undercut us. They are also exempt from many of the regulations I must follow. Please help by going to this site. Fill in your information and it will send your congressman a letter.

https://www.votervoice.net/NPMA/Campaigns/30900/Respond


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3674491
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http://larchmont.patch.com/articles/mamaroneck-geese-on-death-row

USDA WS ges inter agency agreement to do goose work.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3677445
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3685391
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Taxes going up to help support Wildlufe Services.

http://www.capitalpress.com/content/SE-brand-fee-030813


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USDA Wildlife Services faces spending cuts.... Don't worry there are thousands if lisenced NWCOs to fill in the gaps!
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/...the-158502.html


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3685862
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Please take a look at this.
We need you help.
https://www.votervoice.net/mobile/NPMA/Campaigns/30900/Respond


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3691083
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$71 million of WS’ $110.5 million FY 2011 budget was derived from contracts with federal, state and local governments, associations, businesses, and individual property owners.

How much do you bring in a year?


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3697683
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USDA WIldlife Services on FOX News.

Are they giving all of us a bad name?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/12/ani...ildlife-agency/


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3697730
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I would say not unless you are doing the same thing they are Cody? The folks in this article including the guy from 2009 have been rolling
around the AR circuit since then working on helping take out WS. The most recent guy from WY should have been fired just because of the
misuse of photo/video while on the job (though he argues he wasn't on the job).

Now if we get down to the heart of this issue. There are folks on this forum and on other forums within this forum and others that use live
animals to train dogs, including coyote decoy dogs and trapline dogs. I think you are opening up an area you'd not like to be discussing as
most of those folks are highly determined to keep their right to do so no matter what the public thinks.

Now does the photo and video cause an uproar? Yes it does, but every private guy out there these days seems to be putting up hunting, trapping
and other videos and photos without ever worrying, as we often discuss and debate here and on other professional forums. Right or wrong
it happens daily, hourly, by the minute because we are in an era where everything has a video and photo in it, phones, cams, etc....

I do understand your plight is to say WS bad, private NWCO good, just sayin in this case, what is being put out there is done by many private folks
whether they are the type to post the photo or video.......?

Personally hate seeing this stuff no matter who puts it up, but surprised to see this particular one, as it is put out by the AR movement and usually that is a no go for Paul's forums.

Justin

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