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Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: bic] #3371743 10/16/12 12:36 PM 10/16/12 12:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 52 NY StoneKnife trapper
StoneKnife trapper Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 52 NY	Originally Posted By: bic I Prefer to notch the pans. How many years do you think it takes to wear out a pan with a nightlatch? When I do need to replace a pan, it is then that I switch over to a PIT pan setup. Notching the dog doesn't make sense to me either. John 14:6 Accept Jesus as your savior and repent your sins. The alternative will be to go where the fire is never quenched and the worm doesn't die.

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: L.C.] #3372632 10/16/12 09:11 PM 10/16/12 09:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 296 East Central, Minnesota Jason Dufresne trapper
Jason Dufresne trapper Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 296 East Central, Minnesota	Guys it's all about speed for me...filing the dog is the fastest, most consistent way I've come up with. If I touch a pan shank, it's for short latching. Real fast with a 4 1/2" angle grinder. All of these methods work, not that one is better than the other by any means. -Another trick- If you end up with a 1.5 Duke that has the "bump" on the end of the dog from a poor shearing die...Set it on a steel tabel with the bump facing up, smack it with a hammer, voila bump is all gone. All that's left is to dress up the sides as they flare out, stick it in the jig...and file away. When you're doing one or a hundred, it's nice to have it all go smoothly! -Jason

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: L.C.] #3372639 10/16/12 09:13 PM 10/16/12 09:13 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 19 North Dakota D DakotaDeer trapper
DakotaDeer trapper D Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 19 North Dakota	I don't get why notching one or the other would matter either way. What am I missing? Why is it better to latch the pan?

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: L.C.] #3372658 10/16/12 09:21 PM 10/16/12 09:21 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 296 East Central, Minnesota Jason Dufresne trapper
Jason Dufresne trapper Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 296 East Central, Minnesota	One isn't better than the other imo. Both give an audible click, letting you know that it's 1/16" away from firing. That's how I do them anyway. I know some that want both done as it helps how their pans set level when in the final notch. That ought to keep ya up lol...

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: Jason Dufresne] #3372706 10/16/12 09:39 PM 10/16/12 09:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,377 Iowa ~ADC~ The Count
~ADC~ The Count Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,377 Iowa	Originally Posted By: Jason Dufresne Here ya go guys a simple tool that will save you a ton of time when it comes to night latching! Wish I had thought of it a few thousand traps faster than I did lol!! Just a short piece of tubing with a nut welded to it, so I can use a thumb screw to hold down the dog of the trap, allowing me to get a precise depth (read distance to travel before firing) repeatedly. I grind all the teeth off of a mill file on one side, and use the bottom or edge of the file to file down my notch. This allows me to ride the file against my jig without filing it away at the same time, and makes it last for thousands of traps. I've found this is the fastest, most easily repeatable way of night latching...doing it to the dog. For those that night latch, you can thank me later... If you'd like a jig, or a file pm me here or e-mail me on my web site and I'll set ya up!! Catch 'em all...Jason. Got mine in the mail today Jason. I suppose I'll have to start using it soon. Thanks buddy! ~ADC~

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: Jason Dufresne] #3372740 10/16/12 09:58 PM 10/16/12 09:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 9 Michigan W Wildtrapper trapper
Wildtrapper trapper W Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 9 Michigan	When you file the latch as you do what gives it this audible "click"? I see the latch is filed and tapered but what on the dog does it click against?

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: L.C.] #3372937 10/16/12 11:46 PM 10/16/12 11:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 296 East Central, Minnesota Jason Dufresne trapper
Jason Dufresne trapper Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 296 East Central, Minnesota	Yeah, sorry about that ADC! Hope it gives ya more time with the Mrs., or making your awesome skinning rigs!! -Jason Wildtrapper -It's having a 90 degree sharp corner on the shank of the pan, falling into the 90 degree filed edge on the dog and the spring pressure forcing them into one another that gives that sweet audible "CLICK!"

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: Wildtrapper] #3372952 10/16/12 11:56 PM 10/16/12 11:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,459 Montana Taximan trapper
Taximan trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,459 Montana	Originally Posted By: Wildtrapper When you file the latch as you do what gives it this audible "click"? I see the latch is filed and tapered but what on the dog does it click against? The dog is under pressure as it is holding down the jaw.Starting with the pan a little high,and pulling down on the pan till it drops into that notch-that's your click.Metal to metal when the pan drops into the notch on the dog or vice versa.You can also feel the click.

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: L.C.] #3373539 10/17/12 12:24 PM 10/17/12 12:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 551 Iron Range, Minnesota R Ringbill5196 trapper
Ringbill5196 trapper R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 551 Iron Range, Minnesota	After running MB550's I like the dog method much better. I'll be buying one of these jigs.

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: Jason Dufresne] #3374642 10/17/12 10:46 PM 10/17/12 10:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 9 Michigan W Wildtrapper trapper
Wildtrapper trapper W Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 9 Michigan	Wow, I see now. You are letting the end of the latch "sandwich" into the bump on the pan shank? That is some crazy light tension.

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: Jason Dufresne] #3374704 10/17/12 11:31 PM 10/17/12 11:31 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,398 SD Boone Liane trapper
Boone Liane trapper Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,398 SD	Originally Posted By: Jason Dufresne Here ya go guys a simple tool that will save you a ton of time when it comes to night latching! Wish I had thought of it a few thousand traps faster than I did lol!! Just a short piece of tubing with a nut welded to it, so I can use a thumb screw to hold down the dog of the trap, allowing me to get a precise depth (read distance to travel before firing) repeatedly. I grind all the teeth off of a mill file on one side, and use the bottom or edge of the file to file down my notch. This allows me to ride the file against my jig without filing it away at the same time, and makes it last for thousands of traps. I've found this is the fastest, most easily repeatable way of night latching...doing it to the dog. For those that night latch, you can thank me later... If you'd like a jig, or a file pm me here or e-mail me on my web site and I'll set ya up!! Catch 'em all...Jason. So simple, and so ingenious. Like most good ideas.

Re: Night latch trigger help [Re: L.C.] #3374714 10/17/12 11:36 PM 10/17/12 11:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 5,777 central Illinois yoteguts trapper
yoteguts trapper Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 5,777 central Illinois	Very nice Jason. Sure beats the vice grip guide I was using. I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'. More trappin' and less yappin'. Member FTA & USSA.

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