Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/19/12 09:32 AM
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One of the actual rights we have here in America is the right to free speech. Every person reading these posts have the right to comment on them, and say what they believe to be correct. They can tell anyone how they should dress, how they should act, what is right and what is wrong. However, there is nothing anywhere that says other readers must do as they say.
Years ago I heard this definition I've paraphrased by a Chief Justice (I don't remember who unfortunately) that sums this up quite nicely. "Your right to freedom of speech ends at the tip of my nose."
I for one would rather be given the choice of making a change rather than having it forced upon me. I may not like the change; however, I'd rather decide to give a little instead of loosing everything. For example, I'd rather agree to use a certain size foothold trap than to not be allowed to trap. This approach allows me to still trap while I try to change the foothold size restriction. Basically, this is what is being discussed in this thread.
Tending your garden means looking after it and if your neighbor is doing something that may effect your garden, then it becomes your responsibility to say something to them. Whether or not they accept your advice, is a totally different item. If you don't say anything then you have nobody but yourself to blame for what happens. For another example, look at the Ohio Senate and the bill they are looking at for wildlife control.
This bill was originally introduced into the House of Representatives by 5 or 6 individuals with a lobbyist out of the 800+ licensed individuals for performing wildlife control work. If everyone decided to focus on themselves, it would have been passed and any private company in Ohio that performed work to exclude, catch, or repair wildlife damage to a structure would of have to pass a test, license their business for $100 plus test and license those that did the work for $15 each, plus purchase a hunting license, trapping license, fishing license, AND still follow the nuisance regulations we currently have. Why? Because this group of individuals decided wildlife control wasn't being done in a professional manner and this would be the stepping stone to making it professional.
Instead, the Ohio Wildlife Control Operators held a meeting and invited all licensed individuals for the state to participate and give their input. This input was then used to restructure the bill so that now the fee is only $40, no fee is required for individuals performing the work but they still must pass a test, no hunting/trapping/fishing license is required, and a new set of regulations will be created to govern this license when the Senate approves it. None of this means that I approve 100% of what the Senate is looking at, but again I feel much better knowing I at least had an opportunity to have my say.
Sadly, that is an opportunity that not all operators have been given.
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Kermit]
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08/19/12 10:32 AM
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Then you haven't bought much in the way of flowers ,chocolate or wine.So yes LT you can make a first impression a second time. Son, if I had back the money I spent trying to get women to forgive me or except me, I would NEVER have to work again ! Pesky, better dmed than forgotten !Regardless of what is said, you are the talk of the hour and a household name...people know about Pesky. No such thing as Bad Press ! I get PM's and phone calls daily asking me questions... "Did you see what Pesky..., Oh, Pesky..., Oh no he didn't..."
Top ADC forum topic....not many can claim that spot days running. Pesky, maybe they will put you on that show "Celebrity Make Over"...But then, you won't be happy...you are who you are...and you're happy with that, so that's what matters most, to you anyway. Don't hate Pesky, because he's beautiful...
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/19/12 07:38 PM
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820 views......do your turtleman cry Pesky, do your turtleman cry... aileeleeleeeleeeleeleeeeleeee....
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: swampdonkey]
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08/20/12 12:02 PM
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Pesky think of PT Barnum - "I don't care what they say about me, as long as they spell my name right!"
mikeD
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure
Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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08/20/12 12:27 PM
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Nathan Krause
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... but this whole Threadline Exemplifies why so many of Us longtimers on Tman have chosen to quit posting.
Well said Scott, well said.
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/20/12 05:00 PM
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Paul Winkelmann
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Since I started this thread, I am the one who should take all the blame! I've had threads deleted (some rightfully so and others, well, maybe not so much) The important things is that Pesky, sqs, LT, Rick, Dave, trapper4hire, Eric, Minnesota Scott and on and on, can express their opinions and at least for the most part, everyone can decide how they feel.
Now I know that they're are many of you who have become lurkers because you say one wrong word on here and everybody seems to jump down your throat. ( Okay, I admit it, I may have been the jumper but on many occasions, I have also been the target ) I am probably bothered by criticism more than the average guy. I usually go to sleep thinking about it. Is this a good thing? Probably so. You may learn to get your point across without stepping on so many feet. ( Well, maybe you have have, but I haven't)
All I have to say is that if Pesky can take everything that has been thrown at him and is still able to say what he has to say, shouldn't we all? I will never quit criticizing Pesky for anything unprofessional, nor will I stop complimenting him on the many things I admire about him. ( And this is only because all of you will do the same to me. Just spell my name right! )
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/20/12 09:24 PM
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I will never quit criticizing Pesky for anything unprofessional, nor will I stop complimenting him on the many things I admire about him. Learning is a struggle for many (including myself). Observing the culture of Americans it can be observed that it is the struggle that makes us great.
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/20/12 09:36 PM
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This was the perfect thread Pesky and everyone got to learn how to be more professional and the professionals learned to be more empathetic and professional in their counseling. win win
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/20/12 10:31 PM
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Dave Schmidt
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Excellent posts, Eric and Mofarmboy. It can be argued that, while grotesque to some, a dead deer hanging off a bumper or whatever is already dead and unable to experience pain and stress. Those folks in WC who don't care about their image with the country club set will have to subsist on the crumbs from those who do care.
Last edited by Dave Schmidt; 08/20/12 10:32 PM.
ALL OUT Wildlife Control
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/20/12 10:52 PM
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And kudos to you as well, Wink. I know you as one of the lions of our industry - always willing to learn, always willing to teach. The part I don't get (still) is how you can carry a skunk (or a boar coon or g-hog, for that matter) around in your van without spending half the day gagging, 'cuz around here - animals stink! But it is mighty nice of you to share your A/C with 'em. A coupla times this summer I would've gone into one of your traps in order to ride in air conditioning! As for Pesky: he's obviously a PeTA or ALF employee planted as a WCO who was told "Put some video online that portrays WCO's as idiot rednecks." Did you think he makes a living doing things like this?
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ALL OUT Wildlife Control
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