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#3222443 - 07/11/12 05:28 PM ARGO
p barrett Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/12/10
Posts: 161
Loc: fla
Can anyone give me any insite on a Argo.I am interested in a 8x8 with tracks,how well do they work in AK?THANKS

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#3222551 - 07/11/12 06:43 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
Dirt Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/01/10
Posts: 209
Loc: Armpit, ak
No tracks and 1986 with a little 16 horse tecumseh single cylinder motor. It swamps good. Will high center easy. No suspension and no speed. Tows good. HIGH MAINTENANCE. Used them mostly for moose hunting/guiding. Won't tear up a swamp as bad as atvs. Can load a whole cut up moose in it. And that will shear some pins.
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#3222569 - 07/11/12 06:54 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
yukon254 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/08
Posts: 445
Loc: Yukon
The new ones have a different transmission and are much better than the older ones..... still like Dirt says, they are high maintenance.
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#3222688 - 07/11/12 08:25 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
p barrett Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/12/10
Posts: 161
Loc: fla
Looking at new ones 31hp motor, tracks, never used one just trying too hear from you guys that might use them

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#3222770 - 07/11/12 09:26 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
yukon254 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/08
Posts: 445
Loc: Yukon
I have used one a fair amount guiding. They will go just about anywhere, but are pricey.
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#3223025 - 07/12/12 12:54 AM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
countrysmith Offline
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Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 1924
Loc: canada, manitoba
old ones are junk
newer are better
brand new are really good but lots of $$

i had one up till last week.. i loved it like crazy and never had problems. its was a newish one.
lol but now i want a new one so i sold it.
i put 250 hours on in two winters
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#3224391 - 07/12/12 10:59 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
Nunamiut Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 1
Loc: alaska
Im used to the maintenance schedule on my Argo. 400 hrs later(3 seasons), Im changing out pretty much all the chains and sprokets. Mine is an older 99 conquest which was about 10,000 less then a new argo. Given I haul all my camping gear and 1-3 caribou in it traveling about 50 miles round trip every trip I guess that's not bad. I never used the tracks so I cannot tell you anything on them. I wouldn't want any other machine for the country I travel in. I grease the bearings and check all the chains and bolts on the frame every 70 hrs. For the hours I put on it and the loads and terrain I drive through, 3 yrs without any major problems isn't so bad. Maintenance is the key to owning an argo, I seen brand new argos become junk within 1-2 years because there was no maintenance done on them. You can climb steep inclines, haul some heavy loads, and float across lakes with them. I would recommend it for Alaska.
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#3224430 - 07/12/12 11:48 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
onegunsmith Offline
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Registered: 09/27/09
Posts: 4
Loc: Palmer AK
Have you looked at the Mudd Ox, I hear they are much better machines.

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#3224437 - 07/12/12 11:54 PM Re: ARGO [Re: Nunamiut]
fishermann222 Offline

"OX"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 5292
Loc: Bethel, Alaska
Originally Posted By: Nunamiut
50 miles round trip every trip.


My back hurts just imagining 50 miles in an argo. smile
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#3224445 - 07/13/12 12:12 AM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
Dirt Offline
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Registered: 12/01/10
Posts: 209
Loc: Armpit, ak
Oh, I forgot my favorite thing to do with an Argo. Run over willows and alders and the occasional small spruce. Almost as much fun as driving my old APC ( M113 ) in the Army and the Guard.
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#3224825 - 07/13/12 11:44 AM Re: ARGO [Re: fishermann222]
Nunamiut Offline
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Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 1
Loc: alaska
Originally Posted By: fishermann222
Originally Posted By: Nunamiut
50 miles round trip every trip.


My back hurts just imagining 50 miles in an argo. smile


Yeah, the traveling is slow, but I guess when you grow up traveling with them the bumpy ride is all part of the adventure. In our village a few people own cars, but just about everybody has an Argo. I wonder how some boat seats would do up front for the driver and passenger?
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#3224843 - 07/13/12 11:58 AM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
fishermann222 Offline

"OX"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 5292
Loc: Bethel, Alaska
There ya go Nunamiut, put in an air ride boat seat, that is a GREAT idea.
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#3224892 - 07/13/12 12:54 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
UgashikBob Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/30/08
Posts: 528
Loc: Alaska Bristol Bay
There are only two things in the world with a higher ride time to maintenance ratio than a Argo. One of them is a helicopter. Mine hardly ever breaks anymore if I leave it in the garage.

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#3225218 - 07/13/12 05:19 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
p barrett Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/12/10
Posts: 161
Loc: fla
That is something I was concerned about the maintenance.I know even less about the mudd ox,Argo seems too be the most popular but I dont know about the best quality

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#3225605 - 07/13/12 10:30 PM Re: ARGO [Re: UgashikBob]
trapper ron Offline
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Registered: 12/08/08
Posts: 1168
Loc: Kelowna BC Canada
Originally Posted By: UgashikBob
There are only two things in the world with a higher ride time to maintenance ratio than a Argo. One of them is a helicopter. Mine hardly ever breaks anymore if I leave it in the garage.


Your helicopter or your argo ? smile
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#3226707 - 07/14/12 09:15 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
Dale Torma Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 1099
Loc: Northern MN
I have had a 2005 Argo avenger for 1 1/2 years. Grease often, Lube the chains, change the oil and filter once or twice a year (Kohler liquid cooled) check air pressure often. I have trapped and fished out of it, use an electric trolling motor for fishing. They are way slow in the water with just the tires. They won't move in the water with the tracks. The machine will take you where nothing else will go.

I use the tracks in snow or in boggy areas. The tracks are great in the snow. Will skid trees out easily on a packed snow trail. An air seat would be great.

I carry a tool kit with a socket set, crescent wrench, grease gun, chain links (hav'nt needed them yet) drive belt, propane torch for fire starting, long Samson rope for extending the winch, (get a winch) leatherman and small manual tire pump and patch kit. All I've used so far is the tire pump, grease gun and rope. Carry a saw or axe and you can go anywhere. Drive it like it's stolen for wet creek crossings so the momentum will help you climb out. No good in fast water, the tires only go 3 miles per hour in water. It is not a boat, but is ok for fishing or crossing smallish lakes, especially with an outboard motor. The tires will get you stuck in mud flats. Climb out of the lake on solid ground or winch it out.

Not really fast, kinda loud, rough riding sometimes, but will get you anywhere within reason. It will get you where you can't walk out, so use common sense.

My wife told me I had to get one, and we love it!

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#3227251 - 07/15/12 11:01 AM Re: ARGO [Re: Dale Torma]
watarrat Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 15
Loc: Lake Iliamna Ak
We traded ours for a DR String Trimmer. Best trade ever!

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#3227559 - 07/15/12 04:04 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2087
Loc: Homer, Alaska
Now that is what I call consensus. laugh
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#3227962 - 07/15/12 09:21 PM Re: ARGO [Re: watarrat]
Dale Torma Offline
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Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 1099
Loc: Northern MN
You either like them Or you don't. Some folks think they're too slow. More reliable than the six wheel Polaris at work,but not as fast. The mechanics have at least 7,000 bucks tied up in parts on a 4 year old Polaris, and it won't float, but rides nice. Used for powerline maintenance. Boss wouldn't even try an Argo cause he thinks it's too slow. Mine gets me where I want to go, and I can't ride a string trimmer. The 8 wheel is the way to go, six wheel Argos are pretty small.

They are not great for fast water,will float you downstream, slower streams and lakes aren't a problem. Or shallow fast water.

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#3231220 - 07/18/12 08:04 AM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
UgashikBob Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/30/08
Posts: 528
Loc: Alaska Bristol Bay
watarrat:
We could use a good string trimmer. Doesn't take up so much space in the garage.
Ron:
My Argo has stayed in the garage for the last 5 years. Been looking for someone I will never see again to sell it to. Don't own a helo but familiar with the maintenance.


Edited by UgashikBob (07/18/12 08:10 AM)

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#3232416 - 07/18/12 10:07 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
Dale Torma Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 1099
Loc: Northern MN
Well I still like mine, but I may be wierd.

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#3236567 - 07/21/12 07:50 PM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
p barrett Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/12/10
Posts: 161
Loc: fla
The "Escargo tracks" seem right bad --s but again I dont know and would like to hear from folks that have used them

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#3237085 - 07/22/12 08:14 AM Re: ARGO [Re: p barrett]
Dale Torma Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 1099
Loc: Northern MN
I have The super tracks on my 2005 Argo Avenger, I believe they are mostly meant for snow. They are great in the snow, but use up alot of the horsepower. Tough to steer unless on snow. I have used them in otherwise impassable cattails and swamp and they work well. Tracks will not propel you in the water, you must cross deep creeks with momentum and driving your machine like it's stolen. Regular tracks may be better for general use.

If you are planning on being in deep water alot an electric trolling motor or gas outboard is necessary. Our local search and rescue uses an Argo and they find it crucial for some situations. Only thing better is a marsh master, but they are 100,000 dollars or more unless used.

I just read up on the escargo tracks, now I wish I had them, they look great and are for rough terrain and water.


Edited by Dale T (07/22/12 08:51 AM)
Edit Reason: More new( to me) info

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