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#320698 - 09/02/07 09:46 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: ]
Haus Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1661
Loc: south of little rock, ar
Got me stumped. I'm tired and plan to bust a few squirrels in the morning. I'll check back tomorrow.

haus
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#320699 - 09/02/07 09:47 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: Steven G Trosper]
dugout Offline
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Registered: 07/16/07
Posts: 159
Loc: Maryland's Famous Eastern Shor...
 Originally Posted By: Steven G Trosper
I fail to see how it is all that expensive or time consuming. No one is THAT busy!


Hmmm...
How long does it take to do 300 traps??? \:o

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#320709 - 09/02/07 09:54 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: dugout]
Paul Dobbins Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 7536
Loc: Goldsboro, North Carolina
I fail to understand why you'd want a trap to be swiveled from the side on a double coil spring trap. This will cause the foot to slide to the opposite side from the swivel point and sliding can cause cuts.

Center swiveling doesn't allow the foot to slide between the jaws.

I might be dense, but it seems simple to me.
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#320712 - 09/02/07 09:55 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: dugout]
cwilld Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2174
Loc: North Idaho
 Originally Posted By: dugout
 Originally Posted By: Steven G Trosper
I fail to see how it is all that expensive or time consuming. No one is THAT busy!


Hmmm...
How long does it take to do 300 traps??? \:o

Took me about 2 minutes and 24 seconds... \:D
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#320714 - 09/02/07 09:56 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: ]
dugout Offline
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Registered: 07/16/07
Posts: 159
Loc: Maryland's Famous Eastern Shor...
Jtrapper;

Have you ever had a side mounted #6 J-hook open?

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#320715 - 09/02/07 09:57 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: dugout]
KYBOY Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 4033
Loc: East, Kentucky
I kinda like mine center swiveled, now if i had my choice all my beaver traps would be swiveled off a D-ring but off to the side instead of the middle..Ill never advocate putting a J-hook thru the hole on the crosspiece..The last time I did that I lost a set of jaws when the frame bowed..
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#320716 - 09/02/07 09:57 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: Paul Dobbins]
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What if the foot was caught off to the side to begin with Paul? Then a ceneter swivel causes the foot to slide to the center, right?

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#320718 - 09/02/07 09:58 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: Paul Dobbins]
k9. Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3740
Loc: Brooklyn, Iowa 45 years old st...
Jayme I base my conclusions not only on what I have been told by experienced trappers, but also from watching animals in my traps. I like the way the center swiveling treats them hands down, anytime. I may not have time this year as I am building a barn fullof box traps, but I want all my coon traps center swiveled also, and will be welding them all after this season.
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#320719 - 09/02/07 09:59 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: dugout]
Jtrapper Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 15454
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
No sir dug out but i stopped using that set up not long after i started trapping, buddy bought a book called Trap Adjustments by some ol beaver trapper whose name now escapse me, lol.

Ran a peice of chain around the frame's of my 1.5's for years to get a centered up swivel action, then coyotes made me go to rhino tough bullet proof equipment.
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#320721 - 09/02/07 09:59 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: ]
Paul Dobbins Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: Goldsboro, North Carolina
How far would the foot travel from either far side to the center verses from the same side as swiveled to the other side? Twice as far?????
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#320729 - 09/02/07 10:02 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: Paul Dobbins]
coop Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1981
Loc: De
I predict a triple digit post here...


Edited by coop (09/02/07 10:02 PM)

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#320738 - 09/02/07 10:06 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: Haus]
snowman Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3290
Loc: Michigan
 Originally Posted By: Haus


Seeing that you 2500 posts you might know something I don't, so lets here you logic. (or you just like to post a lot \:\)

haus


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#320741 - 09/02/07 10:07 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: coop]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 15454
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
There's another theory to all this Paul, as i posted had to about hold skinny up with a knife to explain it to me, save you about 1 coyote out of 100 according to him, that being a odd lone toe caught one that with a center swiveled trap would more than likely escape.

That old bald eagle thinks different than about anyone else, lol.
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#320742 - 09/02/07 10:07 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: snowman]
k9. Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3740
Loc: Brooklyn, Iowa 45 years old st...
Me too Snowman.

Now I gotta go find my Dobbins book and look all this stuff up
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#320747 - 09/02/07 10:12 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: coop]
PA skinner Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 1477
Loc: PA
I like my traps center swiveled, or at least swiveled from the base, like the Northwoods or Bridgers with the ring around the base. I don't care to have anything sticking out of the base.

But, for fox and coon trapping, with coilsprings, I really don't see that it matters a great deal. Having extra swivels matters, but if you have a good strong trap with rounded jaws to begin with, it's pretty much a non issue.
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#320754 - 09/02/07 10:16 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: PA skinner]
Paul Dobbins Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 7536
Loc: Goldsboro, North Carolina
Ok, J, I don't see the difference between a toe-caught coyote and a pad catch when it comes to center swiveling as opposed to side swiveling. Enlighten me please.
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#320757 - 09/02/07 10:18 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: Paul Dobbins]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 15454
Loc: Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
Cant, it's a Pedersen, Inc. trade secret, if he wish's to he can explain it, but has to be tomorrow as ol coot had to run to a airport at 4 am this morning and for fear of my life im not telling you what that was about either, lol.
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#320761 - 09/02/07 10:21 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: Jtrapper]
k9. Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3740
Loc: Brooklyn, Iowa 45 years old st...
I can about guess what that was about. Ole fart has a busier social calander that Coonhangman does \:\)

I'm with you Paul, and even if it saves that one toe catch, I still like the way it treats the other 99 coyotes.
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#320762 - 09/02/07 10:21 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your trap [Re: Jtrapper]
BuckNE
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Probably got summoned by the boss and had to fly to Syracuse.

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#320766 - 09/02/07 10:22 PM Re: Why you do NOT want to center swivel your traps? [Re: Paul Dobbins]
ADC
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 Originally Posted By: Paul Dobbins
How far would the foot travel from either far side to the center verses from the same side as swiveled to the other side? Twice as far?????


True. I saw that one coming. lol

How about the theory that when the animlal is trying to pull out of the trap that the center swivel puts the foot in the one area of the trap where it would be easiest to pull out, top dead center? Any truth to that? Or total BS? Seems reasonable looking at it "on paper" I mean if you had your finger in there you'd want it in the center of the top because it pulls out easier there, right???

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