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#3203445 - 06/27/12 11:09 PM grouse/ptarmigan gun
AKscott Offline
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Registered: 01/07/07
Loc: north pole, AK
What do you like for a grouse gun, I had the firing pin engagement plate break on my grandpas old h&r and the way the things are built it is a pain to tear down so it's going to be a wall hanger now. I was thinking about a stoeger coach gun in .410 I also have a bunch of .22's but I notice if you hit the breast with a 22 "as much as i try to avoid it" it will often push feathers into the meat, not a big deal as long as you clean the would canal well. Just curious what you like to use.
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#3203453 - 06/27/12 11:18 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
lbtrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/21/10
Loc: alaska
410. On occasion I'll use a 20 gauge
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#3203473 - 06/27/12 11:35 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Castor Gitter Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/15/08
Loc: Fairbanks, AK
savage over/under in .22 mag/.20 gauge. great combo for lotsa situations

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#3203498 - 06/27/12 11:55 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Boco Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/11
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
22, 410, 12ga, 20ga.


Edited by Boco (06/27/12 11:56 PM)

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#3203514 - 06/28/12 12:28 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
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trapper

Registered: 12/10/09
Loc: Fairbanks AK
Head shots or base of neck (if you can, I'm hit or miss) with 22s, wing shoot them in the air with my 20 gauge. I wanted a .410, but they're kind of spendy for ammo and I'm more likely to hit them and any incidental waterfowl with a 20 gauge. On my long list of guns to buy is the 22 mag/20 gauge combo, whenever I get one it may replace my Henry 22 mag on the snow machine, but I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.
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#3203538 - 06/28/12 01:44 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
AKTrapping907 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/08/10
Loc: Southeast, Alaska
I've got the Mossberg .410
Reloading my own shells helps a lot, but it is a very good ptarmigan gun

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#3203946 - 06/28/12 11:20 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKTrapping907]
trapper ron Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/08/08
Loc: Kelowna BC Canada
I love my take down Savage .22/.410 over and under. Great gun for grouse and the trapline.
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#3205001 - 06/28/12 10:54 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
akmac Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/21/08
Loc: Kenai Alaska
Try a .177 pellet gun, one of the newer model types that use a single spring/barrel break. They will push the pellet in excess of 700 FPS and it will kill the bird with no problem. Plus it is quiet so you can pick off any other birds in the immediate vicinity without the whole flock spooking. Works so good it is almost like cheating.

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#3205012 - 06/28/12 11:02 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
AKscott Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/07/07
Loc: north pole, AK
that didn't even cross my mind, I know they are getting pretty advanced with pellet guns like that new electronic benjamin .357
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#3205534 - 06/29/12 01:14 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Trapper_243 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/10
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
I use maverick 12 ga and my brother is using a 20 ga. We use it both for grouse ptarmigan ducks and it works perfect I find. Also shot lots of grouse and rabbits with .177 Cal pellet gun


Edited by Trapper_243 (06/29/12 01:14 PM)

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#3206539 - 06/30/12 07:59 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
BlueDuck Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/02/07
Loc: Hayden, Idaho
I use a contender pistol in .410. Shot a truck load of grouse over the years with it.

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#3206599 - 06/30/12 08:52 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Spek Jones Offline
"FATHER"

Registered: 01/10/09
Loc: Homer, Alaska
Just my own preference, but I'd rather have one 22 bullet hole that passes on through than
to have 5 or 6 shotgun holes, with the BB still in the meat. With a scope on a 22 most of
the time they are close enough to do head shot's consistently, and with no meat damage.

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#3206735 - 06/30/12 10:39 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
trader steve Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/21/12
Loc: southern ind
i have an use a CZ 20ga auto here in indiana very lite an fast handling

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#3207588 - 06/30/12 11:29 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
decoy Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/24/07
Loc: north Idaho
Matthews Switchback & 100gr. heads
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#3207661 - 07/01/12 02:58 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: decoy]
AKscott Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/07/07
Loc: north pole, AK
[quote=decoy]Matthews Switchback & 100gr. heads [/quote

Yea that is fun, I have also blown through a lot of money in arrows shooting "at" grouse, turns out they will keep going after you hit them with a broad head, those new turkey razor heads would be pretty neat too.

And I can definatley understand your point of view on the subject spek.
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#3208160 - 07/01/12 02:43 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Gen2600 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/22/10
Loc: Alaska
I'll put a .22 through their head every time. Saves time and chipped teeth smile
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#3208197 - 07/01/12 03:26 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: Gen2600]
Cougartail
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Originally Posted By: Gen2600
I'll put a .22 through their head every time. Saves time and chipped teeth smile


I'll put a .22 through their head 10% of the time. Going to the supermarket is still cheaper than the dentist.

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#3218424 - 07/08/12 08:05 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Taximan Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/20/07
Loc: SW Montana
The Springfield M6 Scout.This one is .410/.22 Hornet.Slow on the second shot but will get the job done.The rifle barrel is surprisingly accurate in mine.Stows shells in the buttstock and breaks down for packing.The sad part is,since they quit importing them,they are no longer an economical gun.

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#3218454 - 07/08/12 08:19 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
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"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
Looks like it would be cold to handle
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#3218504 - 07/08/12 08:46 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Taximan Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/20/07
Loc: SW Montana
Only in the Winter,White.Don't you guys wear gloves?

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#3218522 - 07/08/12 08:57 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
white17 Online   content

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
LOL ! Heck no that's sort of sissy.
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#3218579 - 07/08/12 09:38 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Taximan Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/20/07
Loc: SW Montana
Gotcha.I'm feelin' kinda whimpy right now.

That gun is the civilian version of the Air Force survival gun and it was designed with that weird squeeze trigger that could be used with mittens or frozen hands.It's amazingly easy to get used to.

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#3218636 - 07/08/12 10:06 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
white17 Online   content

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
Yeah I can see that it might be. I have to admit that whenever I use a gun I do so bare-handed. Just can't get used to shooting with gloves.
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#3218669 - 07/08/12 10:30 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Taximan Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/20/07
Loc: SW Montana
I'm exactly the same way.I at least have to have my trigger finger pad exposed.A lot of survival guys wrap these M4's with para chord in the contact areas.

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#3218890 - 07/09/12 07:25 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
white17 Online   content

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
Never thought about the paracord trick. When shooting skeet etc. I wear a pair of construction gloves. The ones with the half-fingers. Works great for me.
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#3219235 - 07/09/12 12:49 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Taximan Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/20/07
Loc: SW Montana
Here's a link.Then the cord can be used for emergencies.
http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/v-shrake/m6.html


Edited by Taximan (07/09/12 09:24 PM)

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#3219262 - 07/09/12 01:32 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
white17 Online   content

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
Link doesn't work for me
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#3219902 - 07/09/12 09:25 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Taximan Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/20/07
Loc: SW Montana
Sorry White.It should work now.

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#3219968 - 07/09/12 09:55 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
white17 Online   content

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
Pretty neat ! Thanks.
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#3222334 - 07/11/12 04:27 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: white17]
Pogo Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Iowa...Along the 'Ol Miss
Originally Posted By: white17
Looks like it would be cold to handle


Brrrr! That's exactly what I was thinking! whistle
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#3245855 - 07/27/12 12:21 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
akmarten907 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/27/10
Loc: Russian Mission, AK
That looks awesome! I'm sure my hands wouldn't agree with me at -25F below smile
I too seldom ever use gloves when shooting grouse during the winter. I've got a ruger 10/22 LR rifle, 12ga shotgun that I use for grouse hunting. I'd prefer using 4shot or even 6shot if I can get my hands on a few boxes to hunt grouse. Now as far as a air rifle goes, we've got a .177 cal pellet gun that is powered at 1000fps. Found out that the Match point pellets are better suited for knocking down those grouse rather than using pointed/domed/rounded pellets.
A .410 would be great too, I have got to get a couple .410's for my young boys to enjoy hunting at their young age.
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#3248687 - 07/29/12 08:05 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Bushman Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/28/06
Loc: Alberta
I have a Remington 20 gauge youth shotgun. Small and easy to pack. Grew up with 22 and 410 but the 20 gauge is my first choice now
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#3306241 - 09/04/12 07:27 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
AKTrapping907 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/08/10
Loc: Southeast, Alaska



The .410 will pluck them out of the air, with a challenge.

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#3306338 - 09/04/12 08:03 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
scalloper Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/17/09
Loc: All over Maine
10/22 with scope. I shoot the base of the neck. I used a shot gun for years but I got tired of biting lead. Getting realy tired of biting steel in ducks too but not much choice there.
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#3306662 - 09/04/12 10:25 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Bullelk34 Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/05/12
Loc: Montana
That's the ugliest gun I've ever seen Taximan, but oddly enough now I want one!
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#3308480 - 09/06/12 12:25 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: Bullelk34]
rosscoak Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/07/10
Loc: Southeast, AK
the best grouser I found was a stevens 410/22 in the newspaper classifieds for $75 each. I should have bought both of them. The one I bought went through a firing pin...thank goodness for numrich gun parts. I give em one with the 22 first then when i miss I give em the 410 load. I do actually like to carry the ruger mark 2 pistol for grouse in the fall when hunting deer just cause it is lightweight and easy to carry in the drybag. last fall i went 5/5 on the grouse using the pistol. The dog flushed up the last three as I would have walked on by them.

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#3312777 - 09/08/12 07:05 PM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: rosscoak]
Birchcreekkid Offline
trapper

Registered: 07/05/08
Loc: Circle, Alaska
If your going to get a new gun just get a 12 guage it will do everything from grouse to geese
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#3313685 - 09/09/12 10:33 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
TheFurTrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/28/10
Loc: Manitoba, Canada
12 Gauge
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#3313705 - 09/09/12 10:47 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
alaska viking Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/25/07
Loc: juneau, alaska
slingshot.
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#3313802 - 09/09/12 11:50 AM Re: grouse/ptarmigan gun [Re: AKscott]
Boco Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/11
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
Stick.

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