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#3164687 - 05/19/12 10:54 AM BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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Edited by trapper4hire (05/19/12 11:09 AM)
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#3164717 - 05/19/12 11:29 AM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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That's differnt kind of door than I've seen before . I bet that gets them out fast .
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#3164724 - 05/19/12 11:36 AM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Registered: 02/26/08
Loc: Tama country IA
No flapper on the end ?
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#3164855 - 05/19/12 01:39 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: West, Mi
i was wondering about the one way door also?
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#3164872 - 05/19/12 02:03 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Registered: 03/16/10
Loc: Georgia
What size is the mesh on the wire? Almost looks too big in the pics....anyway, nice work!

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#3164931 - 05/19/12 03:05 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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They are going to climb back in...

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#3164955 - 05/19/12 03:29 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: ]
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Registered: 06/28/09
Loc: Dayton, OH
The mesh is 1/2 X 1/2 ,16 gauge. Ive never used a bat excluder with a flapper, always horizontal tubes, drop valves like this one, and I use 1/4 netting ocaisionally. Ive only used this system about 50 times in the last 2 years, havent had any bats figure it out yet. Ive watched them work on it before, they all concentrate on fighting to get through up at the funnel end, they dont travel that far AWAY FROM their "door" to figure it out.

Originally Posted By: DaveK
They are going to climb back in...


Apparently your bats are smarter than ours..... but our football players are smarter than yours.LOL


Edited by trapper4hire (05/19/12 03:44 PM)
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#3164969 - 05/19/12 03:37 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: Barehunter]
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Loc: Central Ohio
Originally Posted By: Barehunter
What size is the mesh on the wire? Almost looks too big in the pics....anyway, nice work!




Very nice design, but some bats ( Indiana Browns ) are able to get through 1 x 1 " wire.
I have had bats go through 1x 1, so I switched to a smaller mesh.

I always use 1/4" x 1/4 " wire now or netting that is 1/4 x 1/4 ".

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#3164973 - 05/19/12 03:39 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: LT GREY]
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Loc: Dayton, OH
Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Originally Posted By: Barehunter
What size is the mesh on the wire? Almost looks too big in the pics....anyway, nice work!




Very nice design, but some bats may be able to get through 1 x 1 " wire.
I have had bats go through 1x 1, so I switched to a smaller mesh.

I always use 1/4" x 1/4 " wire now or netting that is 1/4 x 1/4 ".


the meash is 1/2 by 1/2, you can't manually force a bat through it so I'm confident they dont get through on their own efforts. 1/4 by 1/4 netting is good also, switched to this because its easily reusable.


Edited by trapper4hire (05/19/12 03:40 PM)
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#3164975 - 05/19/12 03:41 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
That design is top notch on that type of brick structure, nice job !

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#3164991 - 05/19/12 03:57 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: ]
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Registered: 03/28/07
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Originally Posted By: DaveK
They are going to climb back in...


I was thinking the same thing looks like they still have both total ingress and egress. Beautiful craftsmanship looks like 1/2 " wire fabric mesh and that you put a lot of time into it; there are easier and simpler methods that are less labor intensive ie: Fluorescent Tube Protector or caulk tubes and duct tape.


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#3165017 - 05/19/12 04:23 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: Robb Russell]
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Registered: 06/28/09
Loc: Dayton, OH
These excluders take about 15 minutes to make and maybe $2 in material. but they are DURABLE I only need to build them once. Bob obviously this unit would not work on an entry like in your pic, but theres no single device that works everywhere. As with all my posts I'm not saying MY WAY is the best, I'm just dispalyimg tools or methods that work for me in certain situations. but thank you for the compliment on craftsmanship. This tool works great for dormers and separated facia. and it wont get destroyed in the back of my truck like a plasti tube.




got some pm about horizontal tubes so here they are. before the PROS start critiqueing me this tube does get some gorilla tape as extra bonding/sealing at point of attatchment.


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#3165065 - 05/19/12 05:15 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
Bats are PRIMAL CREATURES, too threatening of a barrier will make them withdraw back into the structure ! !

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#3165097 - 05/19/12 05:57 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: ]
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Registered: 02/14/11
Loc: Johns Creek, GA
Originally Posted By: DaveK
They are going to climb back in...


That was my first thought. It looks well built but it will do nothing to stop a bat from crawling back in, and they will.
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#3165099 - 05/19/12 05:58 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Registered: 02/14/11
Loc: Johns Creek, GA
They can still land on the mesh and crawl back in the tube has to be smooth and long enough so they can not get a grip ..oh and steep also.
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#3165132 - 05/19/12 06:46 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
RF Wildlife Offline
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Registered: 08/29/10
Loc: CT
I was thinking the same thing about them climbing back in, but I use a similar type of setup to exclude snakes and it does work. Wonder if the mesh disperses the smell and they just go for the source?
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#3165156 - 05/19/12 07:16 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Registered: 12/25/06
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Good funnel design. Crawl backs may be possible with certain devices with alot of climb / attachment potential.Those bats will be all over that device when returning to the roost site. A good education on bat return behavior is learned when watching bat responses to exclusion devices in the early morning hours.They will show you the good and bad of any device.

If you cover the wire mesh you will greatly improve the exiting efficiency of the device by creating an easy draft point for them to follow and recognize. When you have open air exposed devices such at that the exiting bats get confused as to what to do,( particularly vented areas with alot of air flow and a large exiting area,) and which way to follow to exit as the air flow has not changed for them.Cover your wire framing with duct tape or some plastic bag material.Drafting is something many dont really understand when it comes to bat work.

Covering the entire vent with the appropriate cut size of cardboard/luan with an exit hole or holes cut then attach your devices to the cut out areas. Now a draft is created allowing the bats to find your exit point quickly and easily reducing back up and confustion.This is something you will learn over time if you watch enough bat exiting behavior responding to the old netting techniques and wire type funnel devices. Just a tip I have learned over the last 27 years.

This drafting or light limiting method works on squirrels in vents and animals ( ghogs, skunks or coon ) living under unaccessable decks that find the lighted area left open for an exclusion device by closing off other points of light entering by stapling cardboard around the perimeter or other such light limiting material.Animals are drawn to the light and air flow instinctively developing a natural funnel effect.
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#3165160 - 05/19/12 07:20 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
Originally Posted By: trapper4hire
.... As with all my posts I'm not saying MY WAY is the best, I'm just dispalyimg tools or methods that work for me in certain situations. but thank you for the compliment on craftsmanship. This tool works great for dormers and separated facia. and it wont get destroyed in the back of my truck like a plasti tube.....

Agreed, different methods for differing situations. Below are a few links to a number of different bat exclusion devices. There are some excellent ideas and useful information in them.
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post2086323
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post2097599
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2109739/Ridge_Vents_and_bats.html#Post2109739
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/214028/Tip_of_the_Month.html#Post214028
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post1995872
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2606027/Small_Bat_job.html#Post2606027
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2685796/Out_they_go.html#Post2685796
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post3061699
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#3165240 - 05/19/12 08:35 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: LAtrapper]
Barehunter Offline
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Registered: 03/16/10
Loc: Georgia
Here are a few of mine.






The one coming thru the side of the fascia on the dormer is kinda weird for sure. Cut hole with a holesaw. cut an exact fit plug to go back in the hole when done, glued in with gorilla glue, painted and replaced gutter that covered the area although it looked good as new anyway.

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#3165313 - 05/19/12 09:36 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Registered: 02/26/08
Loc: Tama country IA
I never understood the reason for the plastic or mesh over a slick tube that was going straight down, seems like you could get a bat caught in it pretty easy.

Barehunter , whats up with the wooden ladder ??


Edited by 1st RiverRat (05/19/12 09:37 PM)
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