well yeah.. that !

Up by me I would have to say it might even stop them from even looking at the set
my best response was without urine,I have a response by the next day with urine I have had to wait 48 hours or longer.
one more thing when I used Coyote # 1 on the set I have yet to see what they do or how they work the set there was always a yote waiting for me.

those who commit themselves to "only" "always" and "never" are spiting themselves, regardless of their interpretation of their achieved efforts .. just as those who concrete themselves to antiquated cookie cutter "in the box" thinking

I think I've heard that before somewhere...

Maybe it was here... http://www.trapperman.com/trapperman/TTdadsfoxstory.html

MR SKINNER i am in no way saying bait should not be used in fact in colder climates it works but here in the south if i use fresh bait then 2-3 days later i have maggots,sooner when i use tainted bait, then we have to deal with ANTS when i use a fruit type bait for coon.this is why i use more rub post ,trash mound sets and urine post. i can get by with a lot of chicken feathers with out bait and have no problems with maggots and ants and still get the same results by using some thing to keep thier coursity up

Fish and mice work best for me fresh, but other meats seem to work better with a slight taint. Notice the SLIGHT, as in mildly aged , will bring out the meat odor.If a piece of meat smells like it may be still good to eat, but your not quite shure than you probably have a good slight taint. There are as many different ways to taint as there are baits.Cool weather tainting vs warm weather. Sorry, if it's hot summer weather your rotting not tainting. If you must put up your baits in the heat of summer I suggest burrying it for the tainting, and again after you have added preservative, or keep it in a refrig. Mild taints work best for fox, or early in the season. Later when it's colder, and grub is harder to find a little stronger taint will shine. If your trapping in freezing temps and snow than a loud taint with a louder call lure works. If your rotting your baits, sharpen your skinning knives and buy some more skunk stretchers(possum fit these well too.}

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Overkill on the use of lures, baits, and urine is what I believe started that whole 3 day wait idea.
Why spend good money on some high priced bait that the critter will never taste?
If you are after the smell then why not just use a lure with a little eye appeal?
To the average coyote the commercial urines do not smell like A coyote was there, it smells like a dozen coyotes were there as the urine contains the smell of every animal that was in the pens.
The posts above suggest that some still think a lure will call an animal some distance. This may work in hard times of little food but normally a few feet is all you can get.
Again setting on location and using a single draw at the set will be the most effective.

Don't many bait solutions have urine in it?

Urine increases my catch rates in dirtholes...regardless of using baits or just lures down the hole. Tried it both ways due to theories of others....which may work for them but don't necessarily work for me. I/ll keep using the urine in conjunction with bait and keep killing them. It works for me whether or not it flies in the face of coyoteology experts or not.

I agree 101%+
My Dad and myself sold chunk bait for many years and part of the formula was soaking the chunks in urine. I honestly don't think any bait could have been better and it was an extremely popular seller. In fact, it has been about 40 years since I quit selling it due to the excessive work for minimal profit and there are still old trappers asking for Lenon's baits and the testimonials still keep piling up..

Dad and I talked about this. He said that there have been many a canine caught with bait and urine at the same set. It is a typical set combination when using bait, to use urine, and it works today very well.

Y'all have to understand that he came from a time when everyone was a trapper and trapping pressure was heavy in Ohio in the 30's and 40's. Times were tough and if you could catch some fur, the payoff was oftentimes better than what you could make in factory wages. Because of the trapping pressure, the foxes (no coyotes there then) became very suspicious of anything unnatural. He watched the habits of foxes through a spotting scope for days on end. He saw how they buried their bait and what they did when they dug it up. Using this knowledge in those days enabled him to become a legend in his area when it came to fox trapping. He used what he learned to catch those wary foxes.

i have a dog that would impress ya with it's ability to smell something more than a few feet. i'll bet you can't throw a hot-dog or hamburger far enough for her not to smell if she gets downwind of it.

Paul, compared to most on here, i've applied urine all wrong for lots of years. back in the day, we would have a spray bottle and mist the set, even at the tail end of the set where we stood, thinking it would help cover our scent. any thoughts on this?

Anyone who doubts that animals will smell even frozen meat or things that seem to have little or no odor to us should try an experiment. Take any piece of frozen practically odorless meat and throw it into the snow and see how long it takes birds and animals to find it even in sub zero temperatures. Throw a handful of sunflower seeds and see if squirrels as example don't come instantly on the run from incredible distances.

right on asa!

wanted to tell ya, caught rats with your lure this winter! one place in particular, i put 4 traps around a mud pile(with your lure on it) and first night had 3. same exact place and set before would catch a few previous years, but not like that!

Some people just don't give animals noses enough credit.They have a hard time comprehending it because they base things on what they smell,not the animals.

CORRECT ME IF I AM WROUNG
but i feel that lure makers and people that play with lures understand the animals keen smell more then the advarage trapper that just buys his lures and baits and the reason why is the testing being done each and every season. we see the results first hand were most only see it in thier minds. this is why i preach to a lot of trappers to test the lures they buy so they can learn first hand about the animals and the lures they buy. i have seen a lot of post were a trapper said a lure was worthless in thier area but if they had took the time to test when they first got the lure , they would have learned how to apply, the animal and in the worse case had time to replace the lure or bait BEFORE SEASON

Yes, good point...however weather sometimes will play a part as well...

time of year in testing as well can give variable results

LT i agree

ccary i agree to a point but a lot goes in to play on how you test and the locations you pick to test your lures and baits.in the spring i hunt for dens but the trick is stay away from the dens because they will move the pups ,you must stay in a savety zone aprox 40 yards from that den a long a trail. during mid summer and early fall i look for fresh sign on old logging roads and trails and make my mock sets there (right on FRESH SIGN) what most trappers fails to understand is this the animals still has to use these to get from point A to point B EVEN WHEN THE FOOD SOURCE CHANGE..Coon i test lures near water but not always if i am testing lures for yotes,coon or greys i hunt the closest food source like berrys,corn,wild grapes and persimons depends on the time of season and what i am testing.testing baits and lures is just like fur trapping it still must be done on proper locations.