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#3137424 - 04/26/12 10:08 PM King season in the Matsu this year???
teacherman Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/23/11
Loc: Wasilla, AK
One of my buddies at work told me kings are going to close in the Valley June 12th this year? Anyone have any info on this. Can I target them after that and just let them go? I had big plans for the Deshka in June smile

Thanks

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#3137502 - 04/26/12 11:41 PM Re: King season in the Matsu this year??? [Re: teacherman]
Hupurest Offline
"Andy S wannabe"

Registered: 09/20/10
Loc: Alaska
Go to FnG site a see the EO. No bait, catch and release only tue- fri? On little SU. Keep fish on weekends. Deshka and eklitna are different.

They also limit the commercial openers as well.
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#3137537 - 04/27/12 01:44 AM Re: King season in the Matsu this year??? [Re: teacherman]
HFT AK Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/08
Loc: Wasilla AK
The past two years they have done counts prior to closing it on the Lil Su, and the same for Deska. They can't predict how many kings will return. If the commercial fisheries didn't hammer them, the next two years should be good king fishing.

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#3137914 - 04/27/12 12:10 PM Re: King season in the Matsu this year??? [Re: teacherman]
Hupurest Offline
"Andy S wannabe"

Registered: 09/20/10
Loc: Alaska
March 27, 2012

2012 KING SALMON SPORT AND COMMERCIAL FISHING RESTRICTIONS PLANNED FOR NORTHERN COOK INLET STREAMS
Sport and commercial fisheries within the Northern Cook Inlet area will be managed conservatively during the 2012 season in response to low king salmon abundance over recent years, a below-average outlook for the upcoming season, and uncertainty over how quickly king salmon abundance may rebound. Emergency orders will be issued prior to the fishing season to affect sport and commercial fisheries as follows:

Restrictions for sport fishing in the Susitna River drainages and Knik Arm drainages will include:

•Area-wide: annual limit of two (2) king salmon, except the Eklutna Tailrace.
•Area-wide: unbaited, single-hook, artificial lures only, except for the lower Deshka River and the Eklutna Tailrace (single-hook means a fish hook with only one point).
•The Little Susitna River will be further restricted by allowing harvest on Friday-Monday only; catch-and-release fishing for king salmon will be allowed Tuesday-Thursday.
•Parks Highway streams within Unit 2 of the Susitna River will be further restricted to prohibit the harvest of king salmon beginning June 12 through the remainder of the fishing season. Catch-and-release fishing will be allowed during the three-day weekends (Saturday–Monday) beginning June 16 through July 2. Fishing for any species of fish will be closed Tuesday–Friday beginning June 12.
Restrictions for the Northern District commercial king salmon fishery will include:

•Reduction of all four commercial fishing periods from 12 hours to 6 hours.
This management strategy is designed to provide fishing opportunity throughout the season and reduce the potential for midseason closures. Restrictions may be relaxed late in the season if escapement goals are projected to be achieved and additional harvest is available. Northern Cook Inlet king salmon stocks have been well below average since 2007. Restrictive regulations passed by the Board of Fisheries in 2011 to reduce king salmon harvest in Northern Cook Inlet were insufficient to achieve escapement goals in 2011 in 12 of 17 systems that have established goals; therefore, restrictions beyond regulations adopted by the Board of Fisheries are necessary to reduce harvest potential of sport (guided and unguided) and commercial fisheries in 2012.
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#3137981 - 04/27/12 12:55 PM Re: King season in the Matsu this year??? [Re: teacherman]
yukonjeff Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/02/08
Loc: M.T.V. Alaska
Thats how it all begins..just like here on the Yukon they have been closing us since -07
they even say "even though we had a GOOD escapement year" we expect a "BAD" return. how can you "EXPECT" a bad return on a good escapment year? I think they just dont know how to count fish.

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#3138113 - 04/27/12 02:51 PM Re: King season in the Matsu this year??? [Re: teacherman]
FishinHank Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/25/08
Loc: PWS, AK
They need to have a solid 5-6 years of good escapement before you will start seeing the results. Kings usually stay out in the salt for 5 years or so before returning as adults. If they are claiming escapement has been good since 2007 I would expect to see a season soon YJ.
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#3138150 - 04/27/12 03:34 PM Re: King season in the Matsu this year??? [Re: teacherman]
yukonjeff Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/02/08
Loc: M.T.V. Alaska
We can always hope..but I wont hold my breath.

I would like to see a hatchery on the Yukon but not going to happen they say they dont want to take a chance with the wild run but it dont seam to worry about it in the rest of the state.

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#3138172 - 04/27/12 03:58 PM Re: King season in the Matsu this year??? [Re: yukonjeff]
martenpine Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/17/07
Loc: user conflictville, Alaska 99X...
There is a Hatchery on the Yukon Jeff, Whitehorse Rapids Fish Hatchery.

not high volume though, I'll bet you've even had a CWT in your fish head soup at one time or another.

http://www.yukonenergy.ca/downloads/db/491_fish_ladder_eng.pdf
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#3138181 - 04/27/12 04:06 PM Re: King season in the Matsu this year??? [Re: teacherman]
yukonjeff Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/02/08
Loc: M.T.V. Alaska
I guess they need to pump up the volume. otherwise it dont seam to be doing any good we will have another season of no comercial fishing for kings here they somehow already know this before the run even starts.

After reading up on the "Hatchery" in Whitehorse CA I see its just a VERY small hatchery to offsett the loss that the Hydro electric Dam they built across the river caused kind of like what happend in the Columbia river in WA...now I know what happend to the run..lol


Edited by yukonjeff (04/28/12 01:06 AM)

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