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#3130674 - 04/21/12 09:03 PM 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why
teacherman Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/23/11
Loc: Wasilla, AK
Picking up brand new Belisles for marten trapping. Do you go with the 4", 5", or 6" squares??? I was thinking of going with the 160s that way if a wolverine comes past there's a better chance. Plus trap shy critters will be more willing to go into a bigger newspaper tube?

Thanks

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#3130750 - 04/21/12 10:03 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
HFT AK Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/08
Loc: Wasilla AK
I'd go with the 160's. I have a bunch of 220's that I use and love them. I have not had any refusals from a critter when they came to the bucket set. Might be overkill but I'm hoping one day a gulo happens to come by.

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#3130754 - 04/21/12 10:09 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
I'd go with the 120's. I don't see any point in increasing the cost of each set. You can always take the wolverine in a specific set if he's in the area.
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#3132173 - 04/23/12 03:00 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Family Trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Homer, Alaska
I used some 160 bridgers in boxes this year I believe they were. I liked the looks of them. For me the refusal thing is something I have to deal with and felt that they helped. Although I still had a number of refusals. But when I put a 120 in the box after catching a marten they looked a lot smaller. I think the belise is overkill on a marten. The 160 bridger was a strong trap.
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#3133522 - 04/23/12 10:48 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: Family Trapper]
teacherman Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/23/11
Loc: Wasilla, AK
Originally Posted By: Family Trapper
I used some 160 bridgers in boxes this year I believe they were. I liked the looks of them. For me the refusal thing is something I have to deal with and felt that they helped. Although I still had a number of refusals. But when I put a 120 in the box after catching a marten they looked a lot smaller. I think the belise is overkill on a marten. The 160 bridger was a strong trap.


I'm okay with overkill as long as its not doing damage. I seen a pic on here this winter of a wolverine killed in one and I was sold, lol. I do know what you mean about the 160s just looking better in general. I run newspaper tubes with the 120s and 4 gal rubbermaid trash cans with the 160s, they work really good in them. I had a cat come really close this season to sticking his head in a vertical 120, if it would have been a 160 I think it would have been a different story.

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#3133631 - 04/24/12 01:59 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
lbtrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/21/10
Loc: alaska
I'm with FT, 120 works just fine but the 160's look a lot more open and I'm assuming would get less refusals.

I ran 150's this year and they looked good sitting in a box.

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#3135059 - 04/25/12 06:51 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Fergustrap Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/21/07
Loc: Quebec ,Canada
you want marten trap go with 120 for fast strike and no damage on back hair fur. I'm use LDL 120 mag and i'm enjoy of this cadillac trap

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#3135477 - 04/25/12 02:05 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Boco Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/11
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
X2 what Fergus said.

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#3135486 - 04/25/12 02:17 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
yukon254 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/31/08
Loc: Yukon
120s all the way for marten. Savageus are the best 120s made.
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#3135747 - 04/25/12 06:46 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
sheephunter Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/21/11
Loc: Western Wyoming
My marten like 120's. It seems the 160 would hit too hard for a marten. I had several with broken necks with the 120's. I wish I could claim to want to be fast and light, but I'm using newspaper rolls. Keep eyeing those flower pots though. Anyone got a lowdown on flower pots that fit the 120's? I just like the newpaper rolls.

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#3135822 - 04/25/12 07:48 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Kermit Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/23/10
Loc: Ontario
Haven't tried it but wondering about plastic sap buckets.They are tapered.

http://www.embeeplastics.com/sapiteminfo.html

This is what I am talking about

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#3136044 - 04/25/12 09:51 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
sheephunter Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/21/11
Loc: Western Wyoming
OOoooohhh, those look nifty... Thanks Frogman.

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#3136175 - 04/26/12 12:41 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: Kermit]
teacherman Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/23/11
Loc: Wasilla, AK
any idea of cost? I've also been using tubes and its been really hard to top!

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#3136294 - 04/26/12 07:32 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
160user Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/06/07
Loc: MN
The Bridger 120's and 155's work great for me with Marten and Fisher but we don't have the Gulo's to deal with.
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#3136524 - 04/26/12 11:14 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: 160user]
trapper ron Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/08/08
Loc: Kelowna BC Canada
My trap of choice for marten is a 120 LDL with a pan trigger. Makes a better opening for those trap shy marten. The larger traps like a 160 do not selective position the animal for the best kill strike. Many times only making a chest catch. Also a marten can go in and out of a 160 bypassing the triggers with the extra space.

Like others I would suggest a separate set for wolverine. Our better wolverine trappers here have best success with a 280.
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NAFA Trapper Consultant

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#3136674 - 04/26/12 01:20 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
bctomcat Online   content
trapper

Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: 100 Mile House, BC Can
I also prefer a 120 mag trap with a pan trigger. When set in the box about 4" in front of the bait the marten is standing on the trigger when it fires resulting in a perfect humane catch virtually every time.

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#3137849 - 04/27/12 11:34 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Dirt Online   content
trapper

Registered: 12/01/10
Loc: Armpit, ak
So,I have caught maybe a couple thousand marten, but have never used any of the recommended traps above. However, I agree with every trap recommendation above and any future recommendations in this thread.
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#3138112 - 04/27/12 02:50 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Cougartail
Unregistered

Just cause some people haven't caught as many marten doesn't make them "dumber than dirt"......lol

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#3138155 - 04/27/12 03:42 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: ]
Dirt Online   content
trapper

Registered: 12/01/10
Loc: Armpit, ak
Originally Posted By: Cougartail
Just cause some people haven't caught as many marten doesn't make them "dumber than dirt"......lol


I agree nobody is "dumber than dirt". Just saying that makes me feel better about my progress today. smile
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#3138220 - 04/27/12 04:49 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: Dirt]
Cougartail
Unregistered

While you're in such an agreeable mood, would you agree to tell us what trap(s) did you use to catch those thousands of marten in?

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#3138234 - 04/27/12 05:01 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Top Jimmy Offline
"Assistant Speling Zcar"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Alaska, USA
Well, Marten traps, of course..... smile

-TJ
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#3138404 - 04/27/12 07:44 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: Top Jimmy]
trapper ron Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/08/08
Loc: Kelowna BC Canada
Ok I do know that spring has come to Alaska. What I did not know was that it was so hot as to make Dirt delirious. smile
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Director BCTA
Trapping Instructor
NAFA Trapper Consultant

"It's what you learn after you know it all that really counts."

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#3147949 - 05/04/12 08:44 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
teacherman Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/23/11
Loc: Wasilla, AK
Got my first Besiles today and holly *#! They are crazy. They make me feel weak. Very nice traps!!!

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#3153870 - 05/09/12 11:21 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Kirk Howes Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/14/10
Loc: Montana
I'd guess Dirt used longsprings
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#3170885 - 05/24/12 09:33 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
decoy Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/24/07
Loc: north Idaho
Cause Ken told him to.
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#3170912 - 05/24/12 10:05 AM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: teacherman]
Dirt Online   content
trapper

Registered: 12/01/10
Loc: Armpit, ak
"Baa-Baa!"
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#3173249 - 05/25/12 11:56 PM Re: 120s, 155s or 160s for Marten??? Why [Re: Kirk Howes]
mad_mike Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/01/08
Loc: Podunk, Alaska
Originally Posted By: Kirk Howes
I'd guess Dirt used longsprings
Funny, I would use lonsprings if I didn't have all these jumps.

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