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#3128985 - 04/20/12 12:35 PM coil springs for marten?
Joe Hedges Offline
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Registered: 01/12/12
Posts: 28
Loc: montana
What are thoughts on using coils for marten. Size 1 1/2 up to #2s. Setups, leaning pole, chubby, tip ups?t

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#3129002 - 04/20/12 12:52 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14669
Loc: McGrath, AK
Way too much trap IMO.
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#3129057 - 04/20/12 01:36 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
That Fool Offline
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Registered: 03/18/12
Posts: 5
Loc: Alaska Northwestern
X2, only reason to use 1 1/2s would be that bigger animals would be caught as well. I have caught lynx in my pole sets for marten on number one ls. couple of them held by one nail, so I started using cables to tie off and have a mix of 1s 1 1/2 and 13/4 single long springs. One of the older trappers that don't trap any more caught a wolverine by one toenail in a #1. The animal was DOA.

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#3129060 - 04/20/12 01:42 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
Joe Hedges Offline
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Registered: 01/12/12
Posts: 28
Loc: montana
My thoughts were to set some of my weaker 1 1/2 s to keep them out if my cat sets. Plus our quota on cats fill pretty quickly.

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#3129079 - 04/20/12 02:06 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
Joe Hedges Offline
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Registered: 01/12/12
Posts: 28
Loc: montana
We are limited to pole diameter size in some trapping zones, funny where I see lynx is not part of " the zone". Back to thought on coils? Would a off set 1 1/2 result in a pull out, or would it depend on how long the chain was tied off. Had a old timer tell me short tie off is the way to go. Said if they can't move a lot their high metabolism expires them quick?

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#3129097 - 04/20/12 02:24 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14669
Loc: McGrath, AK
You might experience some losses with an offset but the problem is more that the trap is just too heavy and might result in poor performance. If you're concerned about marten plugging your cat sets I would just use some #zeroes on a small diameter pole. Put them high enough so the animal doesn't hang within mouse range on the ground. Or some 120's on a leaning pole.
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#3129109 - 04/20/12 02:33 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
Joe Hedges Offline
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Registered: 01/12/12
Posts: 28
Loc: montana
Don't own any conis any more, I am going to reinvest, are 120s the way to go or 150,155s? I'm curious about these critters never paid any attention to them unless by accident. But I got em so why wouldn't I go for em. Last year wore me out trying to keep the dog traps working in the snow

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#3129122 - 04/20/12 02:47 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14669
Loc: McGrath, AK
The 120's are the better choice IMO.
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#3129150 - 04/20/12 03:13 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
Bruce T Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 15795
Loc: Northern Maine
I catch alot of marten in duke 110 magnum conibears if you decide to go to conibear traps.Great little trap and not real expensive.
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#3129185 - 04/20/12 03:45 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
That Fool Offline
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Registered: 03/18/12
Posts: 5
Loc: Alaska Northwestern
You can make some tip up poles if you are worried about shrews and other animals chewing on them. Just need a finish nail or a regular nail with the head snipped off. Easy to make, just need to worry about high winds that will free the pole.

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#3129263 - 04/20/12 04:59 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
Joe Hedges Offline
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Registered: 01/12/12
Posts: 28
Loc: montana
I like the vertical set idea with the conis,especially when we get heavy snow. But if I was to set the #1 on a leaning pole set have you guys noticed any differents in losing one because of the length in the chain secured to the limb or tree. Also would the fixed jaw position make a difference?

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#3129283 - 04/20/12 05:25 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
drasselt Offline
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Registered: 05/17/10
Posts: 9
Loc: Alaska
Go with the 120's in vertical tree sets and forget the rest. They'll weather the snow better than anything else, they're bird proof and you don't have to worry about the marten getting away.

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#3129304 - 04/20/12 05:41 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14669
Loc: McGrath, AK
X2 what Drasselt said. BUT, I have not noticed any difference because of chain length as long as they can't get their feet on the ground.
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#3129513 - 04/20/12 08:21 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
waggler Offline
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Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 85
Loc: Alaska and Washington State
On rare occasions I use a #1 Victor coil for marten, a nice compact, flat setting trap. I think 1 1/2 coils are way too much trap for marten and more likely to break bone due to weight and too high of grip. Plus way more heavy to carry around.
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#3130058 - 04/21/12 09:22 AM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
Idtrapper Offline
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Registered: 01/22/07
Posts: 1017
Loc: Idaho
# 1's are plenty...

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#3130437 - 04/21/12 05:21 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: drasselt]
DakotaDeer Offline
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Registered: 04/14/12
Posts: 10
Loc: North Dakota
Originally Posted By: drasselt
Go with the 120's in vertical tree sets and forget the rest. They'll weather the snow better than anything else, they're bird proof and you don't have to worry about the marten getting away.


Would you describe how to make the "vertical tree set?" Do you have any pics?

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#3130462 - 04/21/12 05:57 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
That Fool Offline
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Registered: 03/18/12
Posts: 5
Loc: Alaska Northwestern
Use pots,buckets, or box sets hanging on a tree with a 120 set in the entrance, just hang them upside down on the tree

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#3130492 - 04/21/12 06:24 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14669
Loc: McGrath, AK




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#3130759 - 04/21/12 10:11 PM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
drasselt Offline
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Registered: 05/17/10
Posts: 9
Loc: Alaska

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#3131021 - 04/22/12 08:03 AM Re: coil springs for marten? [Re: Joe Hedges]
DakotaDeer Offline
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Registered: 04/14/12
Posts: 10
Loc: North Dakota
How do you secure the actual trap onto the tree? I see the nailed on cross-brace, but how is the trap actually connected to the brace?


Would this same set catch raccoon?

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