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#2795451 - 10/25/11 04:51 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: Alaskan]
northway Offline
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Registered: 01/25/07
Posts: 1264
Loc: Tok, Alaska
Originally Posted By: Alaskan
Originally Posted By: fishermann222
it would be cute if he mounted a set of goat horns on the front of it also smile


You chuckle but the "mini" is in the works for Junior...goat horns (or atleast some deer) might become an add on. At least with the goat horns, we know it can handle steep terrain...


I am sure you've done a LOT with goats!

Nothing like hunting a bunch of transplanted inbred goats!

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#2795459 - 10/25/11 04:56 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
woodelf Offline
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Registered: 03/23/07
Posts: 1213
Loc: Alaska/North Dakota
I can see I will have to defend my honor again. The MINI-Z kicks butt and that is all there is to it. I dont get stuck I just put it over my shoulder and carry it out.

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#2795516 - 10/25/11 05:25 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
fishermann222 Offline

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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 5292
Loc: Bethel, Alaska
glad to see your keeping up woodelf, i know it takes an extra step or two. grin
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#2795528 - 10/25/11 05:33 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: woodelf]
northway Offline
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Registered: 01/25/07
Posts: 1264
Loc: Tok, Alaska
Originally Posted By: woodelf
I can see I will have to defend my honor again. The MINI-Z kicks butt and that is all there is to it. I dont get stuck I just put it over my shoulder and carry it out.


I guess that will fix the getting stuck problem! smile

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#2795704 - 10/25/11 07:16 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
otterman Offline



Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 2399
Loc: SW Alaska
Fish have you looked at the Etech know a few guys here who love the 20 miles to the gallon they get
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#2795944 - 10/25/11 08:56 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
Family Trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2087
Loc: Homer, Alaska
I have heard good things about the etec as well. Expensive oil but great gas milage.
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#2796028 - 10/25/11 09:42 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
nushking Offline
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Registered: 10/10/09
Posts: 1
Loc: Nushagak, AK
I am ottermans nephew and I own a 2010 renegade 600 etec. After putting on 6K miles on the machine last year, i still got about 20mpg. In those 6k miles, i burned about 6 gallons of oil. It didn't matter if i went fast or slow either, in powder or packed trails. This is by far the best efficient machine i have owned.

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#2796239 - 10/25/11 11:27 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
Alaskan Offline
"AMY SUE"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 4967
Loc: Gnome, Alaska
One thing on the E-tecs: must, and I mean MUST use premium gas. If you don't (and most of us in the villages don't have that option) it is only a matter of time till you burn up your engine, and they won't warranty it, as it clearly states to use premium gas.
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#2796295 - 10/26/11 01:02 AM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: Alaskan]
otterman Offline



Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 2399
Loc: SW Alaska
Originally Posted By: Alaskan
One thing on the E-tecs: must, and I mean MUST use premium gas. If you don't (and most of us in the villages don't have that option) it is only a matter of time till you burn up your engine, and they won't warranty it, as it clearly states to use premium gas.

True but octane booster in every tank fixes that for some. I am pretty sure nushking has not had to put booster in his. I can also say he rides hard very hard when wolf hunting especially
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#2796326 - 10/26/11 02:34 AM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
nushking Offline
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Registered: 10/10/09
Posts: 1
Loc: Nushagak, AK
In my etec, I run regular gas. Haven't had any problems so far. The good things about etec's are they are very quiet. A lot of people asked me if it was a four stroke. The motor starts up every time either on the first or second pull. Very easy to maintain, and it pulls load very well.

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#2796740 - 10/26/11 11:27 AM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: otterman]
Alaskan Offline
"AMY SUE"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 4967
Loc: Gnome, Alaska
Originally Posted By: otterman
Originally Posted By: Alaskan
One thing on the E-tecs: must, and I mean MUST use premium gas. If you don't (and most of us in the villages don't have that option) it is only a matter of time till you burn up your engine, and they won't warranty it, as it clearly states to use premium gas.

True but octane booster in every tank fixes that for some. I am pretty sure nushking has not had to put booster in his. I can also say he rides hard very hard when wolf hunting especially


I hear ya, but w/o a supply available of "Premium" gas, when (and it is a when, not an if) the engine has issues, the dealer will point to the gas. Saying you put octane booster in it won't matter. Personally i think it's BS, but it does state to run Premium through it (on the website and in the literature). Have a few buddies that have them (I REALLY wanted one but waited, and am glad I did) and half have had issues, the others haven't had any. But when there are issues, they are $3-4k issues....
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#2798157 - 10/26/11 11:02 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
Steven 49er Offline
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Registered: 05/18/10
Posts: 102
Loc: mn north of blakely
Originally Posted By: fishermann222
My other question with it is, what is the life expectancy on these engines?


Fisherman I cant comment on the Doo motor but my friends that are test drivers at A Cat say everything else will wear out before the motor.

They tell me 20000 plus miles is realistic.

I've only got 7000 on mine.

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#2981204 - 01/30/12 04:33 AM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
Brother Dave Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/25/11
Posts: 6
Loc: SE Alaska
Back to life for this thread...any more comments on the ACE machines? I am going to 'snowcheck' or 'spring order' an expedition sport ACE next month and possibly one other ACE but not sure which platform. curious to hear folks' thoughts after a couple months since original thread.

Dave

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#2981585 - 01/30/12 10:25 AM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: Brother Dave]
TrapperTy Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 62
Loc: Alaska
For those interested in cold starting a 600 ACE I tested out my non electric method this weekend. Two cans of sterno next to the exhaust pipes coming out of the cylinders for one hour and it started at -42F. Don't use the gelled stuff it can spill and burn your machine up. The wick stuff works well. I checked the oil to see if it would pour and it does at that temp so there should be some lubrication on start up. I covered the hood with an old sleeping bag. I don't have any worries of cold starting without power now. Of course around electricity I will get a good thorough preheat in order to prolong engine life.

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#2981605 - 01/30/12 10:35 AM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: TrapperTy]
Mainiac Offline
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 155
Loc: Princeton, Maine
We have no snow here this year but i have put about 150miles on my new one in western maine. I think I will really like it. I can see 2 problems with this machine: the reverse lever and the "key". I can see me breaking the reverse bracket sometime soon. It is a plastic piece you have to pull down and it pulls very hard. The key thing is also a pain and has to be adjusted after most start ups. I will lube the linkage on the reverse to try and fix the problem and just have to deal with the weird key thing. The sled is very comfortable and quiet. You dont have a headache after riding and you don't smell like a sled. I will let you know milage after this next tank.

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#2981646 - 01/30/12 10:59 AM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
fishermann222 Offline

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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 5292
Loc: Bethel, Alaska
You bring up the reverse lever Maniac, I had forgotten to mention that, when backing up, don't sit normal, the jolt in reverse could cause your knee to punch it back into forward. The reverse gets easier with more miles.

I am getting between 17 and 22, pulling a sled, seems when it is super cold I get closer to 17.
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#3045979 - 02/29/12 06:57 AM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
Mainiac Offline
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 155
Loc: Princeton, Maine
I have put a few tanks of gas through this sled finally and am getting around 17mpg. This is not pulling a load. I have yet to try it in deep snow but I am heading north this wekend for a good test.

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#3074616 - 03/14/12 03:00 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
Brother Dave Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/25/11
Posts: 6
Loc: SE Alaska
I'm snow-checking one of these this week. Wish they had an 800 ACE but we'll see how the 600 does...

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#3074656 - 03/14/12 03:32 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
fishermann222 Offline

"OX"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 5292
Loc: Bethel, Alaska
Dave you will love it.
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#3074679 - 03/14/12 03:50 PM Re: Skidoo expedition 600 ACE [Re: fishermann222]
Alaskan Offline
"AMY SUE"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 4967
Loc: Gnome, Alaska
I sure love mine! At about 500 miles on it, and easy 20+mpg in any condition. I do have the shorter 136" track on the renegade.
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