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#2811997 - 11/04/11 03:39 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread ((PICS)) [Re: RockyinOP]
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Registered: 10/04/11
Loc: UK
Originally Posted By: RockyinOP
Not catching as many moles as I think I should be, need some advice to bolster my confidence. I am using mostly Out-of-sights and a few of Steve's traps.

One of the jobs I am currently working on is a double estate lot, so 3/8 - 1/2 acre, they've had moles "for years". The mole hills are huge; the hills and surface tunnels cover more than half the property. I have been using a 3/16 steel rod to locate the deep runs near the hills, then I dig down to expose the tunnel. I then either insert steve's traps or refill the tunnel with loose dirt and pat it down with my hand and position the trap. I have 10 OSS's and 6 of steve's traps on the property and have only caught 2 moles in a week (a week of very nice weather).

Today I pulled out about 6 of the traps to make sure the moles weren't digging around the traps and I see no evidence of this.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.



When approaching such an area i flatten the molehills as i set traps. Then i can see where the activity is. We use a combination of 'duffus' and 'talpa' type traps and i have to say that they're effective. If the mole ever fills in the Duffus he will be caught with a Talpa. I have tried the @Trapline' type trap and i caugh, but i don't rate them like i do the other two. For one thing you can tell at a glance if there has been a trap spring, without opening the tunnel up to check. We all like our own thing though. What is worth remembering is that one little mole can make one [Please excuse my language... I'm an idiot] of alot of mess! I've been on places that have had 30-40 hills and only got 2 moles. Good luck.

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#2818348 - 11/08/11 10:50 AM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread ((PICS)) [Re: RockyinOP]
Mike K. Offline
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Registered: 01/11/10
Loc: SW Missouri
I frequently find moles captured on various parts of their body. However, here's a first for me. This mole was captured by the nape of his neck & back and then continued to pull the trap through the tunnel until it expired. (You can actually see the fold of skin that was in the trap)

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#2818389 - 11/08/11 11:21 AM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread ((PICS)) [Re: RockyinOP]
Mike K. Offline
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Registered: 01/11/10
Loc: SW Missouri
BTW Rocky - After I receive an order of traps I go over every one of them. The first thing I do is remove all of the safetys so they are not inadvertently on when I leave the job. Nothing like doing a trap check and finding sprung traps with the safety on! I then use a file to at least round off the end of the trigger as the shearing leaves a raised area - and some may need more than others. I occasionally bend a trigger/rod but not very often. The stress of the set trap will usually bend it enough over time. I also file down any unusual amounts of cast flashing while I'm filing to prevent cuts and abrasions. I then make sure the end of jaws do not hit each other when closing and will use a flat screwdriver to adjust them as needed. I like a 1/2" of travel on my pans so the trigger may need to be filed down to allow for this. Then the traps are set up overnight on a table to see if any trip and need further adjustment. I also touch up the paint where I have filed and all other traps are painted twice during the season. I am a firm believer that if you take care of these traps they will last for many years. Even though I have experimented with stainless additions to the trap I found that the cost and labor involved did not warrant it as it is cheaper to buy another new trap. I have some other tweaks that I won't disclose but those are the main ones that every new trap receives. Over time you will find what works good for you as well.


Edited by METRO FS (11/08/11 11:22 AM)
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#2932809 - 01/07/12 12:23 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: SteveAlbano]
Mike K. Offline
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Registered: 01/11/10
Loc: SW Missouri
TTT - Just in case you missed out...
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#2934202 - 01/08/12 04:54 AM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: Bob Jameson]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson
Dont over compress the tunnel area below the trap trigger pan. Some commonly do this and cause a refusal or dig around,over or under the tightly compressed area. When I compress a tunnel I use my thumb and fore finger to pull and tear the soil and push down until there is a finger sized hole left at the bottom of the tunnel.This is a nose probe guide and lets them know the tunnel is still there and can be reopened easily. Push and position your trap while firmly placing the trigger on top of the depressed area.

Just sounds like a mechanics problem with setting I believe.Some dont catch on to mole tunnel setting quickly. Some do. Also make sure you are setting at the level of the tunnel for good interception. At times you need to dig down to allow good positioning to occur also.


Somebody copy this and send it to Bud25.....maybe he'll listen to Mr. Jameson !

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#2934203 - 01/08/12 04:56 AM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread ((PICS)) [Re: willvalley]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
Originally Posted By: willvalley
Two more today thanks to LT GREY.
How does that go, a poet and don't know it.
I do have a large foot,14s.
Thanks again LT. It is getting fun.


This is my first happy customer.

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#2934666 - 01/08/12 12:45 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
BUD25 Offline
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Registered: 12/26/08
Loc: southern Minnesota
Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson
Dont over compress the tunnel area below the trap trigger pan. Some commonly do this and cause a refusal or dig around,over or under the tightly compressed area. When I compress a tunnel I use my thumb and fore finger to pull and tear the soil and push down until there is a finger sized hole left at the bottom of the tunnel.This is a nose probe guide and lets them know the tunnel is still there and can be reopened easily. Push and position your trap while firmly placing the trigger on top of the depressed area.

Just sounds like a mechanics problem with setting I believe.Some dont catch on to mole tunnel setting quickly. Some do. Also make sure you are setting at the level of the tunnel for good interception. At times you need to dig down to allow good positioning to occur also.


Somebody copy this and send it to Bud25.....maybe he'll listen to Mr. Jameson !

Bob Jameson is truly a professional in all aspects, one man worth taking pointers from. Very humble and understanding in his ways. I set mole traps, I catch moles. it works for me!
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#2935652 - 01/08/12 08:44 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
Oh, how you do go on... laugh grin

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#2935680 - 01/08/12 08:55 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
SteveAlban Offline
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Registered: 06/10/10
Loc: Palo Alto, California
Quote:
Dont over compress the tunnel area below the trap trigger pan. Some commonly do this and cause a refusal or dig around,over or under the tightly compressed area.


Yes, I agree with this advice, but I think it applies equally whether you're just using your thumbs to push down an area just under the pan, or whether you're digging out and collapsing a rectangular area of soil for the entire trap.
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#2937199 - 01/09/12 06:27 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
G Hanold Offline
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Registered: 11/08/09
Loc: Haubstadt, In.
I feel that I'm pretty adept at catching moles. This job has me scratchin my head, not really the catching part, but rather how do the moles get to this isolated island of landscaping around a hotel flagpole? From everything I know of mole behavior they must either push the soil up or bring it up into a mound to travel. There are not mounds or tunnels across the paved parking lot. Did they climb over the 8" curb, jump, mole eggs stuck to a birds foot? lol

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#2937255 - 01/09/12 06:49 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: G Hanold]
Mike K. Offline
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Registered: 01/11/10
Loc: SW Missouri
I have had commercial accounts such as strip centers in high traffic areas where the moles popped up in the islands of turf that were no more than 10' x 20' and surrounded by hundreds of feet of pavement. I was always amazed at how far they would dig under the pavement and at times just thought they parachuted in at night.
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#2937428 - 01/09/12 07:36 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
LBEE Offline
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Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Missouri
I have seen Moles running on top of the Ground to another location.

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#2938132 - 01/10/12 03:54 AM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
Was that during a heavy rain storm ?

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#2938133 - 01/10/12 03:55 AM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: G Hanold]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
Originally Posted By: Hanible
I feel that I'm pretty adept at catching moles. This job has me scratchin my head, not really the catching part, but rather how do the moles get to this isolated island of landscaping around a hotel flagpole? From everything I know of mole behavior they must either push the soil up or bring it up into a mound to travel. There are not mounds or tunnels across the paved parking lot. Did they climb over the 8" curb, jump, mole eggs stuck to a birds foot? lol





They traveled under the pavement !

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#2939935 - 01/10/12 09:37 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
G Hanold Offline
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Registered: 11/08/09
Loc: Haubstadt, In.


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They traveled under the pavement ! [/quote]

Yeah, I figured that. What I'm curious about is in everything I've studied they must raise a tunnel or make a series of mounds if tunneling more than a few inches deep. What do they do with their diggings to get under the approx. 60ft. of paved parking lot?
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#2939972 - 01/10/12 09:55 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
1st RiverRat Offline
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Registered: 02/26/08
Loc: Tama country IA
I have been using the mole spade its fast and has been workin well for me. I am intrested in this "nose guide" That Mr Jameson talks about. I dont seem to have many refusals or go arounds but am all ears for learnin nobody knows it all.
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#2944941 - 01/13/12 08:36 AM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread II [Re: LT GREY]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
I make my nose cones out of clay...right on site...

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#2949379 - 01/15/12 12:30 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread ((PICS)) [Re: LT GREY]
onenut Offline
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Registered: 12/02/11
Loc: Long Island, New York
What is the benefit to traping moles, I trap, never a mole. I have seen them or seen what they have done to my yard and veg. garden. So besides the fact that your yard will be free of holes, what is the real benefit to traping moles.

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#2949874 - 01/15/12 04:39 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread ((PICS)) [Re: LT GREY]
TJP Offline
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Registered: 01/03/11
Loc: Lawrence, Kansas
Only one mole for the past 2 days. We had a cold front come through but now it's trying to warm back up!


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#2950573 - 01/15/12 08:30 PM Re: The Mighty Mole Trappers Thread ((PICS)) [Re: onenut]
1st RiverRat Offline
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Registered: 02/26/08
Loc: Tama country IA
Originally Posted By: onenut
What is the benefit to traping moles, I trap, never a mole. I have seen them or seen what they have done to my yard and veg. garden. So besides the fact that your yard will be free of holes, what is the real benefit to traping moles.


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