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#2922075 - 01/01/12 07:47 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
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Registered: 01/15/08
Posts: 6518
Loc: Central Pa. 54
barredrock, How do you sterilize your Rubbermaid containers?
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#2922078 - 01/01/12 07:47 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
well they lay outdoors all year, and them traps go in them

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#2922087 - 01/01/12 07:50 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
inline51 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/10
Posts: 5
Loc: northwestern illinois
you say you are useing latex glves, waxing your traps.
can i ask , are you useing the same gloves to bait as you are useing to set? if so ,it is a very bad choice you could be getting lure or bait smell on your trap.
also ,i have had problems with some types of wax and where you store your wax. could be picking up some sent where stored. just some thoughts.
as much as some people on here make it look easy ,its not and once you connect a few times you will sit back and say w,WOW thats not so hard . i'm still waiting for that day. wink

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#2922089 - 01/01/12 07:51 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
i had this problem prior years as well and changed everything up except trap wax. Its a huge pot of boughten trap wax. i don't know how it could have been contaminated as it is in and outdoor lean to. I hate to replace it as there is many dollars of wax in there.

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#2922091 - 01/01/12 07:52 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
i change gloves every set, and never lure with gloves.

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#2922097 - 01/01/12 07:53 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
this is the odorless trap wax the all the trap dealers sell

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#2922100 - 01/01/12 07:55 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
i hate to do it, but maybe i dump my trap wax and start over

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#2922110 - 01/01/12 07:59 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
bic Offline
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Registered: 01/15/08
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Loc: Central Pa. 54
It could be possible you scorched your wax when melting it. That will leave a scent. Why not re-boil a few traps and DON'T Wax them. Make a few sets with those traps and see if you still get diggers. OR maybe your waxed dirt is bad. Try a couple sets without using "Your dirt".
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#2922121 - 01/01/12 08:03 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
inline51 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/10
Posts: 5
Loc: northwestern illinois
do you have a few traps that are not waxed? if so try them, i had an old timer tell me that they could smell the wax. i don't know if he was nuts or not.

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#2922125 - 01/01/12 08:03 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
i just started using the wax dirt this year, and I had this problem in previous years. i did overheat the trap wax the first time or two, it could be scorched i guess, it doesn't smell burnt, but i know the K9 nose is better than mine

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#2922129 - 01/01/12 08:05 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
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Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
i think i will reboil the traps bic, won't wax them and see what happens

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#2922130 - 01/01/12 08:05 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
inline51 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/10
Posts: 5
Loc: northwestern illinois
oops ,sorry bic. must be thinking on the same grounds.

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#2922133 - 01/01/12 08:07 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
Fairchild #17 Offline
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Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 743
Loc: Millville, Pennsylvania
Latex glove stink like latex. Another concern with those tight fitting latex gloves is getting them on your hands with your stinky lure covered fingers touching the exterior of the glove. Know what I mean?
I used to try to be a scent controlling fanatic until I realized you just end up chasing your tail. I believe that 50% of dug up traps are from improper bedding and the other 50% are because critters simply love to dig in fresh dirt.
With all that good stink coming from the hole, I think their noses are focused on the hole.
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#2922140 - 01/01/12 08:10 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
ThumbStateTrappr Offline
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Registered: 10/20/08
Posts: 705
Loc: Michigan's Thumb
I myself would blame the latex gloves. Have you ever smelled them. I use nitrile gloves. Nowhere near the smell of latex. If they are powdered latex, even more scent to lay down. The powder ends up on the outside of the gloves while in the box from shifting and moving around. Just my opinion. I am by no means a k9 trapper.
Yet.
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#2922151 - 01/01/12 08:14 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
Fairchild #17 Offline
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Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 743
Loc: Millville, Pennsylvania
Logwood solution stinks. Boiling in sumac, oak leaves, or walnut hulls makes your traps stink! Smell them when you pull them out. Your traps are not scent free unless you boil in straight water and change the water multiple times until the waste water runs clear.
Your wax will take on the scent from the traps, so your wax isn't scent free either.
Forget about the traps or wax being the problem. It sounds like you have done everything within reason to have "clean" traps.
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#2922157 - 01/01/12 08:15 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
i am using latex now, but i have used leather, and everything else, but still had problems.

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#2922162 - 01/01/12 08:16 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
bedding wise i am using a moist dirt solution made with glycol and dirt that allows me to pack the trap down solid and it won't freeze. then topping with wax dirt

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#2922177 - 01/01/12 08:20 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: bic]
Fairchild #17 Offline
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Registered: 12/27/06
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Loc: Millville, Pennsylvania
Originally Posted By: bic
OR maybe your waxed dirt is bad. Try a couple sets without using "Your dirt".


I knew a guy that was having problems with dug traps and I went along with him one morning. He stopped to get a bucket of dry dirt from under a highway overpass. Rather than running up the bank a ways, he dug up the dirt just off the berm of the road. I couldn't help but laugh at him. Nothing like oil, road chemicals, salts, tire chips, glass, cigarette butts, and who knows what else in your trapping dirt!


Edited by Number17 (01/01/12 08:21 PM)
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#2922216 - 01/01/12 08:31 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
barredrock Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
Posts: 986
Loc: Hiawatha kansas age 38
just started using wax dirt this year and had this problem in previous years

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#2922249 - 01/01/12 08:40 PM Re: coyote set, distance from hole/post [Re: barredrock]
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 16089
Loc: Central Ohio
Make a MOCK SET, no trap, just sifted dirt...watch the track pattern....then when you come back, you will know where to place the trap....

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