Who uses what and why? Price? Effective?

Berkshire. They are cheaper than any other stake and they work really good. I have never had anything pull one out. I use the heavy duty ones with the 15" cable.

Pogos are the cheapest, if you make them yourself and i have never had a coyote pull one farther that a couple of inches up. Then, the only reason that it did was, it was the 4th one from the same set. I wont ever use anything else.

are they easy to drive....do the drivers last? Pogos that is

Wolf Fangs. Price is good and they don't bend, and drive in all kinds of ground. Haven't used pogos and berkshires are flimsey, break when driving, break when pulling...truly disposable.
Really have no complaints with the Fangs. They do take a big turn underground, which took some getting used to, but I use them on land and water both, whenever I need a stake.
I finally broke the head off the driver near the end of the season, but the other end of the driver is still good.

I have not used the wolf fangs but they look good. The HD berkshires are junk IMO and I will never buy another one (too many bent and ripped out heads trying to get them in tight ground). I like pogos in some conditions.

Wolf fangs have worked great for me, no complaints.

X4 on the Wolf Fangs....

I've got clay and sand but no rocks. I've been using pogos for some time now and I have no need to use anything else and I've got the time to make them. Here's my cost breakdown by 100 count-
100- #20 Common= $5.40
100- 1/4" x 1.5" Fender Washers= $10.00
Makes them $0.15 ea without cable so I clip and go!

Now you got me to thinking, which I Seldomn do(pun intended) . I have the same type soil. I started using 18" super stakes. They are about $2 each. It was murder getting them out. This year I went to the 12" cable and they are still a pain to remove. For $0.15 to 0.50 it sure would be easy to clip and go.

I know there have been threads picturing Pogo's and the drivers needed. I would love th have someone post a picture on this thread.

This year I switched from body grippers to the new Duke DP's and Berkshires. Took 70 coon,many 20 plus pounds. Didn't have 1 pull out. Only if I knew it was this easy last year!!

i use the berkshires on 15 in cable for my coyotes never had one get pulled up more than a inch or two. i used to use the standards but they dont like wi frost or when you pull them out the heavy duty are my choice now.

what are the reviews using wolf fangs on the water line? got soft silty bottoms and am wondering if they would work?

I also need to find a disposable stake that will hold in my silty ditches.
I had HD Berks for "soft ground" on 34" cables and they pulled out with one hand. I had to use slide rods most of the time.

Anyone use the fox hollows super stakes? Are they good?

Yes and yes but you will need a puller to get them up or else your going to have to dig them out of the ground

I have not used the wolf fangs but Have you used 2" pogos? I use them a lot in the water and am very happy with them. I bought a hd tip from POGO and built a 4' driver for setting drowners and in soft mud.

I bought a pogo driver a month a go and have already messed up the driver. Two pogo anchors, two seperate sets, both came in contact with a rock. Going to have to deburr my driver. Wolf fangs on the other hand....I will never use anything else. And driver is a real cadalliac too. Kirby

Have been using pogo system for three years now on creek side coons, but not without some issues. Our soil varies from muck to hard clay and stony creek bottom conditions. The cost of pogo system is the biggest plus, but the issues I have with it out weight the savings, imo. Orienting the J-hook and washer in the proper position when loading the driver at times can be a little frustrating, J-hook only fits one way, add a little mud in the mix and you'll know what I mean. Having the washer and J-hook assembly not releasing from the driver and coming back out of the ground is another issue at times. Also, I have damaged the driver point when encountering a stone so bad that it was impossible to load another washer with out a return trip home to fix. That happened three times, so I bought another driver for back up use.

Will be using the Wolf fang system from now on. Its fast, and easy to use, Can load it with my eyes shut, much like the Super Stake system, but with out the cost. And will drive through most any type of ground that I encounter.......Dana

This is a good time to talk about this particular occurrence. It's been my experience that a person needs to go through his washers and check them for thickness before making them into a stake. Pretty simple, just like using a go or no-go gauge! There will be a % of washers that will be too thick to fit the slot or a little too tight that would allow dirt, mud, etc. to cause a hang-up in your driver.

For those of you using wolf fangs how hard are they to pull out. They look like a great stake But just wondering if you need a puller for every one or not. I used berkshire HD's this year and really liked them I pulled out 95% by hand the only thing with them is the tips bend easy. I know its easy to bend them back but was just wondering about the wolf fangs thanks

anyone thought about Iowa Earth Anchors--I started using/making them last year and will never use anything else!! I even ran traps down in the sandy river bed and never lost any coyotes..The standard (bought ones) are about 2.5 inches long but I made some that are 6 inches long for dowm in the sand. There is no bending or problem driving them through 8 inches of frozen ground (don't know about you northern guy's, but that's about as bad as it get's here)

I use the wench on my 4-wheeler to pull them up..If you make them yourself they are only about 25 cents apiece--minus cable....I run these on my traps and Cable Restraints too..

Doesn't she dislike being called a wench? I'd call her something else before she drives off with your 4 wheeler never to be seen again.

That's the whole problem with them. Use the same ones again next year and you will change your tune.

I can't even estimate how many times I've approached a set location and had to turn around, go back to the truck and grab a different anchor because my Berkshire failed when pounding it in.

I tried running pilot holes every time....didn't matter. I think this year I finally burned up the last of them. And it's time for something else from now on.

Yea thats what I was thinkin MNCedar But I still got about 100 left so I will probably use them next year but I know there is a better system than that. It seems to me the Wolf Fangs are the ticket the only thing I am worried about is the fact they may be to hard to get out of the ground without a puller. I know I can dig them out but thats a waste of time in my opinion if I have to cut every one because I can't put my driver through the swivel and pull them out they aren't for me.

I tried hard to be a pogo man with 2" pogos, but had the same problems mentioned above. About half of the anchors would stick from sand, and come back up in the driver. The driver got dinged up easily, touching it back up with a file was easy enough, but kind of rediculous every other stake...I could see it being the ticket though in different soils. I switched to the wolf fang myself...just drove some last weekend through ground froze like concrete, no problems. Only on 12" of cable, tried pulling to the point of popping jaws off traps, didn't budge...but digging up 12" was no problem. Deffinately the ticket for my needs.

Alot of that has to do with your driver I've found out. Any driver with bigger than 7/16 diameter tip needs the point ground to an offset position so its pushing the stake straight into the ground. You don't want a point like a pencil either more of a "flatter" point....



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I use them(super stakes) and they can't be beat for doing their job. They can run asup to nearly $2. I think most earth anchors will do the job also. This thread has got me to thinking about using pogo's and not trying to pull them up. I may switch to pogos and just snip and go.

I have been using the wolf fangs this year. And for the rocky ground we have here in SW MO I feel that they cant be beat. They are the only ones I have used yet that I can actually reuse after I extract them from this rock infested country.

who makes the wolf fangs? Do they use a special driver?

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wolf fangs are the best but you will need a puller,you can use your driver as a puller if the ground isnt too hard and you can make your own driver from a piece of 1/2 in. cold rolled just use a grinder and a cutoff wheel to cut the notch in the end of the rod (solid driver no welds to break )

After one season useing the wolf fangs I will not have any other cable stake, and I have tried them all, wolf fangs are the best hands down from the driver,to the stake, and the price. Only one that even comes close is the super stake, and it still runs away from it in the long haul.

I gave up on the Berkshire stakes the tips bend way too easily. I use super stakes for land trapping and they are truly indestructible.

Used the Iowas for years, lost a couple yotes with them, they are expensive. I went to the wolf fangs and wont look back, even for water sets

I now use wolf fangs, I had to modify the driver but like the stake heads. Mine are on 24" of 1/8th cable, which makes a 18" stake.

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Ive only used pogo's for one season, and only on part of my water stuff.

I learned real quick that to keep the anchor from following the driver back up to give the driver a slight twist as I drove or pushed it into the ground. A 1/8th to 1/4 turn completely did away with that problem for me. That was the only issue I had with them. They hold good, are lightweight, and cheap. I plan on using them 100% on my waterline this year.

I do still use rebar for my dryland stuff though.

Anybody try chain on the Wolf Fangs? I dont like cable sticking up if you cant get them drove all the way down.

I run 15" chain on mine, hardly go in more than 10-12".
Wolf fangs are clearly the ticket imo.

I put 12" cable then 6" chain.Cable is in the ground with no problem .
I am with schweg2 clearly the ticket, in the ground I set.

I have used the fangs and the pogos. I bought one set of bullet anchors off ebay...they have been hands down my favorite. They seem to driver where the others bend, including the fangs. No matter what you use...nothing likes rocks. Kirby

I tried the pogos... I will never use another ever again! The driver is JUNK!!! I broke two in less than a month. I understand frozen ground is hard on things... but really.... 2 "heavy duty" drivers in less than a month. Thats pathetic!

I do ok with the heavy duty berkshires if I drill a pilot hole. I bought 100 wolf fang anchors at the end of the season and didnt really get to use any. Im going to run them on 8inches of chain./

Im going to start pre staking in the fall, so I dont have such hard ground to drive into. I know Ill still have to drive some in when the frost comes, but most will be in in late august-october.I sure hope I have as good of results with the wolf fangs as a most of you do. Im really looking forward to finding something that works CONSISTENTLY!

I had good luck with the Fangs as well. I want to attach them directly to my trap chain. How can I attach chain to the fang?? Hole to small for decent S hook.

i love the Heavy Duty Berkshire Stake we have lots of rock's tree root's and frozen ground and they hold up to it i even use them on my beaver line in the river bank,
i have drove them in and thogh most things and have use them to make drags to, i jest cant say enough about them!!!!!!!!!!!

i bought some 1 1/2 and 2 inch fender washers to try n make pogos it seems the j hook dang near fits threw the hole in washer i might still make em just tack it with welder.Can u make a pogo driver by cuttin a slit in the end of re rod?

The only thing I have tried is wolf fangs but I like them a lot. Very tough. They are not the easiest to get out for me. It's probably about 50/50 for the one I can pull out by hand compared to the ones I dig out. Now I just use the winch on the four wheeler. Takes like 15 seconds to hook the winch up and yank it out. Thought I would trash some pulling them with the winch but so far no damage. 18" of 1/8" cable with a wolf fang on the end really gets a solid hold.

I just bought some berkshires but how well do they work in frozen ground? will they bend and come out easier?

I have used all of them,pogos,berks and wolf fangs and the wolf fangs are the best as far as I am concerned.Pogos are ok but I had issues with them and I quickly abandoned them for anchoring traps.In soft or loamy soil they will often not set right and in rocky soil forget it,they bend up or get wedged into the driver.I use some that I have left to anchor baits though.Berks(hd included) suck as far as I am concerned,you end up driving your rod through them,or they bend up when pulling them.The fangs are strong,I have driven them through buried logs and roots,because they are pointed they will angle off smaller rocks and they don't bend up if you hit a rock that is solid or to big to angle off.I have yet to have one bend when pulling,in fact I have snapped cable trying to pull a few so their holding power isn't a concern to me either.I never snapped a cable with a berk,if they broke loose they broke loose at the anchor.I am thinking of switching from cable to chain with the fangs actually,they are so tough and re-usable that I am thinking they would be ok for that.They are very similar to high desert spears but I believe they are a little cheaper...

I've tried iowa anchors(nuts usually break off when hitting a rock), super stakes(too exspensive), tried making my own conduit stakes(they hung on driver). Now use wolf fangs, the best out of the ones I've tried. I'll be using them totally from now on. Definetly need a good puller to pull them up.

Dan

The wolf fangs work great for driving in frozen ground

I used wolf fang, super earth anchors, HD birkshires this year. 6" cable then 6" #2 straight link chain.Drove stake down till I was at my swivel. Even after setting the stake it was only chain coming up so it laid flat under my trap. Worked great on all set ups. But only used 3/32 cable(WRONG!!!) Need to use 1/8 cable where I live. ROCKS!! sheered off two or three of the cables before I was finished. Didn't have any fail me during the season on all of them. But when pulling them up the berkshires bent a little, the earth anchors and the wolf fangs where just fine. But you better have a stake puller or a very large crow bar like mine(4' ft long type) Was able to put it between links and pry up the stakes.(also used a spike-nail- between links ) oh yeah with a peice of wood or a rock underneath so it wouldn't sink out of sight. It worked great though. Didn't need the extra support on frozen ground. Anyhow when pulling the fangs you could see about a foot of earth move before they would start coming up. A true earth anchor. The super earth anchor was almost the same. I will be using more fangs as they do a great job and are a little cheaper.

for those of you that use chain what do you use to attach the chain to the stake with? i heard that the opening in the stake is too small for a (mighty hook) size s hook.

anybody got any pics of your chain attachment?

Chained super stakes with all connections welded shut. They are a pain in the butt to pull, but isn't that the point of using them????

i was refering to chain on the wolf fangs.

I have been looking at them trying to figure out the best way for me to do that,when I figure out what I am going to do and do it,I will post pics for you.
I have been kicking around using a #3 chain link,cut it and attach to fang and hook my #2 chain into that link then welding it shut.We'll see though.There is always a way to do something,you just have to find it and make sure it will function correctly...

i haven't seen the wolf fangs in person yet but could you take a round punch in the hole where the cable goes and drive it in and enlarge the hole enough for the mighty hook to work?

or just use a little smaller diameter s hook?

I was looking at them yesterday and I have s hooks,not mighty hooks,and they fit.Welded shut I imagine they would work.I am going to weld one on tomorrow and drive it and pull it a couple times to see how it works.I am not sure what they are tested to weight/pressure wise before you have to worry about breakage.