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Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2129801
09/02/10 07:57 PM
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Sure those are seeds Tony? As around here we see alot of June Bugs in scats. We don't have alot of wild plums around here either.

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2131186
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Certain times of the year you will also see grasshopper parts that do not digest well and also fruit "skins."

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2131611
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yea around here in a few weeks when bow season opens be full of deer hair


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Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2132413
09/04/10 02:12 PM
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Do raccoons place there poop in any certain spot like territory edges, toilets areas or to mark den trees? Or do they just go were ever?

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2132945
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probally get rocked here but ill say it anyhow. What about the size of the droppings? Especially k9s and cats. It can tell you if your dealing with pups or adults, adult toms or kittens. Which could lead to other factors how you set up an area. Just my view and i do concider it when i examine droppings.

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Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2133410
09/05/10 01:51 PM
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Very well thought out, furslinger. I find myself doing the same.

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: coilspring-teg] #2133710
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Originally Posted By: coilspring-teg
Do raccoons place there poop in any certain spot like territory edges, toilets areas or to mark den trees? Or do they just go were ever?


I think they just go when nature calls.

I find em in to many odd places, and only rarely with several piles in one spot. When I do, It's river coons, and not forest coon.

Not sure though!


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Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2133767
09/05/10 08:43 PM
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I know they have a place outside den trees...

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2133784
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Biggest thing that droppings tell me is that the animal that left it is in the area enought to have left it and in my opinion will be back. If he it didn't feel comfortable enough to have left that dropping in that area, than I wouldn't have found it. Means I'm on location. Make a set.


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Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2134780
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I think these are fruit "skins" but not 100% sure.


Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2135255
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I have been finding several droppings that have corn in them. They also have hair in them and are in the same locations I find yote droppings. It's hard to tell for sure what the source is due to the unusual consistancy from the corn but I'm sure its coyote.


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Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2135676
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Coyotes will certainly eat corn, especially sweet corn.

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2136094
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Corn field yote's, besides corn, will normally come with lots of feral (or tame) cat hair...around here anyway.

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2136111
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Will bobcats eat grasshoppers?

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: furslinger] #2136751
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Originally Posted By: furslinger
probally get rocked here but ill say it anyhow. What about the size of the droppings? Especially k9s and cats. It can tell you if your dealing with pups or adults, adult toms or kittens. Which could lead to other factors how you set up an area. Just my view and i do consider it when i examine droppings.


I have trouble nailing scat down to species. Could you all explain to me some of the key differences in juvenile bobcat droppings and an adult red fox. I know I am on cat sign when I find a toilet, well usually, but the cats and red fox have me stumped. I can usually rule out one species or other on the basis of habitat but by scat I really struggle. All tips would be much appreciated. Great Thread. I love talking poo.


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Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2136761
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This is not trapping related per say but has anyone ever heard that coagulated deer droppings are from male whitetail deer. I always thought it was a product of the deers diet but a biologist told me that during the rut hormone changes cause a bucks scat to coagulate and it is always buck scat. He seemed sincere but I am not sure if this is true. Not trying to hi jack thread, after all it is poo poo related.


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Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2136831
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telling bobcat and red fox poo is some timmes a challenge. I'm by no means a professional but hear are some tips I use. If the droppings are partly fresh and you have a good tracking medium to look for tracks, you can tell the difference in the stide as the animal walks/trots away. Also bobcats diets consist of close to 90% rabbit/hare. So look for bunny rabbit fur in the dropping. Foxes lack the front claws to catch speedy rabbits so more often than not their droppings will contain something else.
As far as shape the red's poop is usually on semi conected strand. And the bobcats should be clumped periodically, if it is a healthy cat that is.

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: LT GREY] #2137507
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'Cat droppings (at least what I've found), are mostly in segments almost like Tootsie Roll candy. Just like a common house cat. Even tiger and lion droppings are this way. Not so much with canines.

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: Drew 33] #2137966
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Originally Posted By: Drew 33
Originally Posted By: furslinger
probally get rocked here but ill say it anyhow. What about the size of the droppings? Especially k9s and cats. It can tell you if your dealing with pups or adults, adult toms or kittens. Which could lead to other factors how you set up an area. Just my view and i do consider it when i examine droppings.


I have trouble nailing scat down to species. Could you all explain to me some of the key differences in juvenile bobcat droppings and an adult red fox. I know I am on cat sign when I find a toilet, well usually, but the cats and red fox have me stumped. I can usually rule out one species or other on the basis of habitat but by scat I really struggle. All tips would be much appreciated. Great Thread. I love talking poo.



regardless of the maturity a bobcat you can usually tell a difference in the color of his droppings as compared to canines. A bobcats stool will usually start to gray in color quickly as it starts to age. There will normally be little fragments of bone and hair, claws etc: in a bobcats stool. A red fox may or may not have this all the time and of course depending on what time of year it is very common to find fruit seeds,berry seeds, grasshopper parts,etc:in fox droppings. and sometimes it may be in a partial liquid state. A bobcats diet and a foxes diet are very similar with the exception of fruit particles and related substances that most likely wont be found in a cats stool. This is just some of the differences. One thing that will help you immensly and is foolproof is to actually open the vent of the next fox and or cat you catch and study its contents thoroughly. File this away in your mind and the next time you go go on your line you may be surprised how quickly you can recognize what left that pile of poop and what his diet consist of. Hope this helps you out some.

Re: What droppings teach us... [Re: MChewk] #2139076
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Originally Posted By: MChewk
Sure those are seeds Tony? As around here we see alot of June Bugs in scats. We don't have alot of wild plums around here either.


Also, when the crickets are thick as lice, I notice tarry black fox stool and always thought they were eating crickets. maybe not?

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