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We might as well return to the Dark Ages. #2096635
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When society is reduced to the point that the medical researchers of this world are hate mongered for using animals that could benefit human families ,we have lost our way. My family & my neighbors family can & have benefited from Primate research. Those researchers have unlocked doors that were blocked in the dark ages by not having the modern-day foundations of research which has been built & enhanced by primate research .

What is really sickening here is these legislators expect to be glorified for saving chimps and not continuing the search for the keys that would curtail human suffering?? Families of North America should be very sickened by the fact that their neighbor & own families health is less important than a Chimp.





US Senate bill to ban chimp research (Scienc Magazine)‏
09/08/2010

Science Magazine

Scientists Decry Proposed Ban on Chimp Research

by Jon Cohen

August 5, 2010

http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/08/scientists-decry-proposed-ban-on.html



In the latest twist in the protracted debate over the use of

chimpanzees in biomedical research, U.S. senators on 3 August

introduced the Great Ape Protection Act, an identical bill to one that

has been stuck in a House of Representatives committee for more than a

year. The move comes on the heels of a letter sent by a who's who of

chimpanzee researchers to Francis Collins, director of the U.S.

National Institutes of Health (NIH), that sharply criticizes the bill,

warning that it "would put extreme and unreasonable restrictions on

future chimpanzee research."



The matching bill would ban invasive research on the estimated 1000

"research" chimpanzees in the country that live in laboratories. A key

issue is the definition of "invasive." The bill would explicitly bar

any research that "may cause death, bodily injury, pain, distress,

fear, injury or trauma."



When introducing the bill, Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) said that

about 1000 chimpanzees, half owned by the federal government,

"languish at great taxpayer expense in six research laboratories

across the nation." Cantwell, whose co-sponsors were Susan Collins

(R-ME) and Bernie Sanders (I-VT), argued that the vast majority of

these chimps were "simply wasting away in these facilities" because

they were "poor research models for human illness, and they have been

of limited use in the study of human disease." She noted that no

country other than Gabon still allows invasive research with chimps.

"The United States is currently behind the rest of the world in

outlawing this sad practice." The Humane Society of the United States,

which helped draft the legislation, claimed in a press release that

chimpanzees have "historically failed as a research model."



In April 2010, 171 researchers sent a letter to Francis Collins

decrying the bill and expressing their "most profound concern about

the impending loss of chimpanzees." Their thoroughly referenced letter

includes a citation of Chimpanzees in Research, a report published by

the National Research Council in 1997 that advocated maintaining a

self-sustaining population of research chimps. The report also

concluded that chimp research "has led to numerous biomedical

advances, including the development of a vaccine for hepatitis B

virus."



The letter-signed by chimpanzee researchers from the most renowned

universities in the country-asserts that "human-chimpanzee comparisons

are essential for understanding the unique characteristics of human

biology." The letter further contends that recent chimp studies for

the first time have identified "unique features of the human brain and

have documented the unusual vulnerability of humans to a variety of

disorders, including Alzheimer's disease, infectious diseases, cancer,

and heart disease."



The letter does not argue for research that would cause chimpanzees

serious harm. Indeed, it focuses on what these researchers see as the

overly broad definition of the term "invasive," which they note would

prohibit taking blood from animals or using anesthesia. "Such

procedures are used routinely in humans; to ban them would create a

formidable obstacle to almost all studies of chimpanzees," they write.

Finally, they urge NIH to hold a public review of its current policy

not to support the breeding of research chimpanzees.



Collins did not reply; instead the researchers received a letter from

Margaret Snyder, who works in the Office of Extramural Research's

Division of Communications and Outreach. "I want to assure you that

NIH is committed to the continued use of chimpanzees in biomedical

research," Snyder wrote. "With out access to chimpanzees, vital

research could not be pursued which would jeopardize scientific

progress in several critical health areas."



The current House bill now has 148 cosponsors but has not moved out of

the Committee on Energy and Commerce since it was introduced in March

2009. (A similar bill introduced in 2008 died in committee.) It's

unclear whether the Senate bill will help give the stalled act

momentum.

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Science Magazine

Scientists Decry Proposed Ban on Chimp Research

by Jon Cohen

August 5, 2010

http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/08/scientists-decry-proposed-ban-on.html



n the latest twist in the protracted debate over the use of

chimpanzees in biomedical research, U.S. senators on 3 August

introduced the Great Ape Protection Act, an identical bill to one that

has been stuck in a House of Representatives committee for more than a

year. The move comes on the heels of a letter sent by a who's who of

chimpanzee researchers to Francis Collins, director of the U.S.

National Institutes of Health (NIH), that sharply criticizes the bill,

warning that it "would put extreme and unreasonable restrictions on

future chimpanzee research."



The matching bill would ban invasive research on the estimated 1000

"research" chimpanzees in the country that live in laboratories. A key

issue is the definition of "invasive." The bill would explicitly bar

any research that "may cause death, bodily injury, pain, distress,

fear, injury or trauma."



When introducing the bill, Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) said that

about 1000 chimpanzees, half owned by the federal government,

"languish at great taxpayer expense in six research laboratories

across the nation." Cantwell, whose co-sponsors were Susan Collins

(R-ME) and Bernie Sanders (I-VT), argued that the vast majority of

these chimps were "simply wasting away in these facilities" because

they were "poor research models for human illness, and they have been

of limited use in the study of human disease." She noted that no

country other than Gabon still allows invasive research with chimps.

"The United States is currently behind the rest of the world in

outlawing this sad practice." The Humane Society of the United States,

which helped draft the legislation, claimed in a press release that

chimpanzees have "historically failed as a research model."



In April 2010, 171 researchers sent a letter to Francis Collins

decrying the bill and expressing their "most profound concern about

the impending loss of chimpanzees." Their thoroughly referenced letter

includes a citation of Chimpanzees in Research, a report published by

the National Research Council in 1997 that advocated maintaining a

self-sustaining population of research chimps. The report also

concluded that chimp research "has led to numerous biomedical

advances, including the development of a vaccine for hepatitis B

virus."



The letter-signed by chimpanzee researchers from the most renowned

universities in the country-asserts that "human-chimpanzee comparisons

are essential for understanding the unique characteristics of human

biology." The letter further contends that recent chimp studies for

the first time have identified "unique features of the human brain and

have documented the unusual vulnerability of humans to a variety of

disorders, including Alzheimer's disease, infectious diseases, cancer,

and heart disease."



The letter does not argue for research that would cause chimpanzees

serious harm. Indeed, it focuses on what these researchers see as the

overly broad definition of the term "invasive," which they note would

prohibit taking blood from animals or using anesthesia. "Such

procedures are used routinely in humans; to ban them would create a

formidable obstacle to almost all studies of chimpanzees," they write.

Finally, they urge NIH to hold a public review of its current policy

not to support the breeding of research chimpanzees.



Collins did not reply; instead the researchers received a letter from

Margaret Snyder, who works in the Office of Extramural Research's

Division of Communications and Outreach. "I want to assure you that

NIH is committed to the continued use of chimpanzees in biomedical

research," Snyder wrote. "With out access to chimpanzees, vital

research could not be pursued which would jeopardize scientific

progress in several critical health areas."



The current House bill now has 148 cosponsors but has not moved out of

the Committee on Energy and Commerce since it was introduced in March

2009. (A similar bill introduced in 2008 died in committee.) It's

unclear whether the Senate bill will help give the stalled act

momentum.


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Sick bunch of individuals. I'd kill every last chimp on earth, if I knew it would save ONE human's life!

And I'd bet every last one of these AR wackjobs would say the same...IF it were THEIR life that'd be saved as a result.

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Originally Posted By: ChiknLitl
Sick bunch of individuals. I'd kill every last chimp on earth, if I knew it would save ONE human's life!

And I'd bet every last one of these AR wackjobs would say the same...IF it were THEIR life that'd be saved as a result.



That hypocrisy is evident as PETAfiles use researched medicines daily in order to survive and as they age they are guilty of using more Medicinal procedures developed in bio labs. They really are sick. They ignor how much more important a child,mother, father or sibling in the human family is to a network of folks who would be heart broken by the loss and failure to continue a search for a cure because BobO the Chimp is more important.


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