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#2040297 - 06/24/10 08:56 PM dbl lonspring modification video + image, discuss
jayirvin
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Long spring trap modification series.
Longspring trap modification series
Jaw lamination, base plate, jaw removal and miles trigger.
video clips, images and tutorials
silverlight video gallery base plate modification

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#2040350 - 06/24/10 09:50 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
yoteguts Offline
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Registered: 07/29/08
Posts: 2431
Loc: central Illinois
Go for it.Not enough stuff on here about long springs.They make a great yote trap.


Edited by yoteguts (06/24/10 09:52 PM)
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#2040672 - 06/25/10 09:03 AM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: yoteguts]
Wright Brothers Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 814
Loc: Pa
I think the saw idea is brilliant. Is it a regular coping saw? Oh I see it is a coping saw, these posts changed or I'm losing it haha.

Someone here asked awhile back how to keep the set spring towards the dog. How do YOU manage that? Torque top spring eye sideways, divot, grind jaw?

A problem I see on mine is the hole were jaws go through frame is worn bad. I don't think because bad metal, I think because these traps were so darn good they have mega-mileage.

Good posts Jay, some of us enjoy them.
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#2040680 - 06/25/10 09:25 AM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: Wright Brothers]
kansaskoons Offline
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Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kansas
I am of fan of longsprings, mostly for beaver but I have caught some dirt trapping with them. Great post.
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#2040738 - 06/25/10 10:18 AM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
kansaskoons Offline
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Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kansas
Jay, what do you think about offsetting jaws that are not factory offset? I have some sleepy creek #4s that I would rather have offset like my victor #4s which are factory offset? I like the victors better.
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#2040821 - 06/25/10 11:32 AM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
kansaskoons Offline
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Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kansas
Do you think that modifying the jaws yourself does as well as having factory offsets?
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#2040972 - 06/25/10 02:51 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
kansaskoons Offline
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Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kansas
Sorry, but what I mean is if you put a bead of weld in between the jaws or weld a piece of metal between the jaws to make them offset, does that hinder the function of the springs?

On factory offsets the metal between the jaws is just gone, in modified offsets someone puts a weld between the jaws to make them offset....do these work as well as factory offsets since the jaws do not close as far and the springs do not go all the way up?
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#2040981 - 06/25/10 03:07 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: kansaskoons]
Wright Brothers Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 814
Loc: Pa
Hope I'm not out of turn.

KKoons I would not do that unless my laws forced me to. In my mind it negates every, or any, advantage of a real offset.

That's just my opinion tho. You could try one no harm just grind it out if you don't like.

If you want real offsets get on that phone number Jay posted seems easiest, best, and cheapest to me.

I really do need to try more offset traps. Some real good trappers from internet and live have suggested them.
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#2041006 - 06/25/10 03:34 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: Wright Brothers]
kansaskoons Offline
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Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kansas
I just plain do not like the looks of them not factory offset.
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#2041359 - 06/25/10 09:43 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
big_twinhd Offline
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Registered: 08/06/09
Posts: 2057
Loc: maine
Jay I like your trigger set up. I may have to borrow that idea. I'm actually working on a few Victor 1 3/4 coils right now and am on a smoke break. smile I'll have to watch your videos on the next one.

As for bending up the tips, is there a drawback if the jaws are to be removed later in life? Meaning will they get brittle and break after a couple of bendings? I was planning on dabbing some wire on the ends, though the springs on a coil spring don't pass there like a long does.
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#2041396 - 06/25/10 10:11 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: big_twinhd]
kansaskoons Offline
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Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kansas
Thanks for the post jay.
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#2041402 - 06/25/10 10:16 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: kansaskoons]
ForrestŪ Offline
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Registered: 12/13/09
Posts: 910
Loc: Ohio
This post is very archive worthy.. Thanks for taking the time to post it I really enjoyed it...
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#2041448 - 06/25/10 11:16 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ForrestŪ]
MNCedar Offline
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Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 41
Loc: Central MN
What is the best way to pop the jaws on a #5 DLS? A massive bench vise? I'm not much of a longspring guy...

You can see the issue in the second pic...will this just break if straightened? Or should I just plan on getting new jaws?

Also, would I be better off welding the jaw tips, or is there a decent way to bend up the tips?



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#2041840 - 06/26/10 12:47 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
CLT Offline
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Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 1833
Loc: st. lawrence county ny
Good post.
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#2041860 - 06/26/10 01:18 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
MNCedar Offline
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Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 41
Loc: Central MN
I'm not afraid to pound on it...

I swing a hammer for a living, buddy.

Guess I just didn't think a screwdriver was enough to pop out the jaws on a #5....there is a slight difference between a #3 and a #5 as far as thickness, etc. Also, I was just going to straighten it in the vise...keep my trap modifications low impact cool

But I'll try it. Thanks.

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#2042210 - 06/26/10 09:16 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification video added [Re: ]
kansaskoons Offline
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Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kansas
Well done jay!
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#2042224 - 06/26/10 09:38 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification video added [Re: kansaskoons]
CLT Offline
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Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 1833
Loc: st. lawrence county ny
Nice,great post.Not enough discussion on longspring mods.
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#2044093 - 06/28/10 06:12 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
nexgen Offline
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Registered: 12/04/09
Posts: 135
Loc: Nova Scotia, Canada
Jay, I have a few #3's that I wanted to modify and I was wondering if 3/16 round rod base plates would be good for coyotes?

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#2045713 - 06/30/10 07:23 AM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
CLT Offline
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Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 1833
Loc: st. lawrence county ny
I'll say it again,great post.Hopefully it makes it into the archives.
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#2045972 - 06/30/10 12:33 PM Re: double lonspring trap modification [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 7643
Loc: South Central Nebraska age 64
Excellent thought we had lost ole lynxy's post, thanks for putting here with your work to add to the overall post. Good job Jayirvin....Thanks for all the effort. Tom

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