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#1930777 - 04/02/10 12:08 PM Coons and Borax???????
bulletbox Offline


Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Robert Lee, TEXAS
I have a bunch of coons in the freezer, and have never put up coons....

With no buyers in my part of the country I decided to give it a try...

Now the ???

Do you use borax on coon hides????

I've used it for years on bobcat and fox..

Flesh and give the critter a good tumble in the borax tub, then on the strecher it goes...

Will this hurt coons to do it also???

Just wondering.....
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Even sheep are smart enough to shade up when it gets over 100....

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#1930787 - 04/02/10 12:13 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: bulletbox]
motrapperjohn Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Warrenton, Mo.
NO, coons are dried leather out, so no need.
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#1930818 - 04/02/10 12:33 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: motrapperjohn]
jdw2825 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/30/08
Loc: Metolius, Oregon
bullet I will use it to help get some of the harder fat to come off. it acts like a gripper. thats the only way I use it

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#1930852 - 04/02/10 12:46 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: jdw2825]
Wildwings Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/04/08
Loc: Minnesota
Borax is basically just a bug proofer. As jdw2825 said it works well for gripping fat but really don't see the need for it. Just spending money or your hides.
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#1930874 - 04/02/10 12:57 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: Wildwings]
Swamp Wolf Offline
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Registered: 04/04/09
Loc: SE Georgia
I use a lot of it to help speed up drying of all pelts in my humid climate. Especially good to dry up the ears, noses, necks etc. and serves as a blowfly deterrent at the same time.
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#1930916 - 04/02/10 01:25 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: Swamp Wolf]
possum skinner
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yeah, I do it ... swampwolf summed it up pretty good

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#1930926 - 04/02/10 01:34 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: ]
Carolina-catfish Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/24/10
Loc: Greenville, South Carolina, US...
What do you mean "put up?" What is your long term use going to be?

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#1931046 - 04/02/10 02:55 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: M. Howard]
hughesj23 Offline
trapper

Registered: 07/19/08
Loc: texas
Hi Blake. I am a huge borax fan. Especially for bobcats and other fur out critters (I don't turn fur out critters, mine go on the stretcher boraxed fur out).
I have done it both ways when putting up coon to send to NAFA and have seen no noticable diffence in my grades. I have now gotten to the point where I only borax coon from the nose down to just below the ears. It seems to help that unfleshed area dry better. But you can do the whole thing if you want to, it does not hurt anything, but its probably not needed on skin-out stuff either. I've also tanned skins that received the borax and it didn't hurt a thing. As a side note, I also borax-bathe the fur window on my coon; fluffs up the fur and cleans up the grease and dirt real nice.

Joel

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#1931105 - 04/02/10 03:28 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: Carolina-catfish]
bulletbox Offline


Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Robert Lee, TEXAS
Originally Posted By: catfishlyles
What do you mean "put up?" What is your long term use going to be?


What "is" is??????

Put-Up in my world means to flesh and dry the fur, so it can be sold...

I use to sell green, all my fur was sold green, but was taking a huge beating on cats, then gray fox, so I started putting them up...

With no fur theives in the country, I had to make a decision, either chunk the coons or put them up...

I haven't sold a coon in about 5 years, but none of these coons are that old... I had one freezer cleaning a couple of years ago (freezer died)... and the buzzards loved me....
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Even sheep are smart enough to shade up when it gets over 100....

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#1931210 - 04/02/10 04:34 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: bulletbox]
HobbieTrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/01/08
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
I ain't saying to do it and I ain't saying don't do it but I will say this....I was told, "If you put fur up like it is suppose to be put up you don't need Borax".

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#1931233 - 04/02/10 04:49 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
FoxSquirrel Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/05/07
Loc: SW Missouri
You boys DO realize that motrapperjohn had THREE of the TEN cats that made "Super Select" (I hope I got that name right) at the NAFA sale...right?
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#1931247 - 04/02/10 04:55 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: FoxSquirrel]
HobbieTrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
And your point is.......did he raise them? lol

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#1931254 - 04/02/10 04:57 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
FoxSquirrel Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/05/07
Loc: SW Missouri
LOL...nahh...just thought maybe that was some advice worth listenin' to
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#1931255 - 04/02/10 04:58 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
possum skinner
Unregistered

blah blah blah ... everybody has their own take on "how, what and everything else"

borax aint absolutely needed especially on coons but it sure don't do nothing to hurt 'em either ... a light dusting sure "tacks" 'em up quick ... you aint packing 'em in it ... just a dustin' ... watch as they dry ... hit'em with a scrub brush to remove excess

borax does fox and cats really good

narrow minds and the ol' I don't do it somebody said don't do it mentality gets ya nowhere ... some of y'all need to have a few thoughts of your own ... give things a try then and only then you have a true opinion not one based on suggestive heresay!

*** I find it odd when folks reply to these topics and then return and delete their reply ... what's up with that???

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#1931262 - 04/02/10 05:03 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: ]
HobbieTrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/01/08
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
Quote:
*** I find it odd when folks reply to these topics and then return and delete their reply ... what's up with that???


I guess you talked them into changing their mind. lmao

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#1931267 - 04/02/10 05:08 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
possum skinner
Unregistered

nah, don't think so ... just noticed a change in this thread since I last looked

don't want to change anybodys mind ... more so would like for them to see and figure things out for themselves after reading and possibly considering different approachs to the same action ... know what I mean smile

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#1931271 - 04/02/10 05:13 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: ]
HobbieTrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/01/08
Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
Personally, I contacted my buyer and asked the "do's & don'ts" since they were the ones that were going to be buying the finished product.

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#1931278 - 04/02/10 05:18 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
reddawg Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/15/07
Loc: Kent Co. Delaware
To each his own . Been Borax'n for years,,,10 or 15 at least. You fellas that "Heard" if you put fur up right you don't need it . Are falling into the trap that Po' Skinny was talk'n about. All the folks that are telling you that,, are closed minded . By the way....it ain't only about drying either. Helps a lot when fleshing.
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#1931281 - 04/02/10 05:21 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
bulletbox Offline


Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Robert Lee, TEXAS
These are going to NAFA...

There isn't a buyer in the country this year... and in years past, they would take them off your hands for a couple of bucks tops... that is if you would sell them your cats for $20 and gray fox for $4 to $8...

NAFA doesn't mention using borax on anything, thus I asked here...

Having never put up coons, I just thought I would ask...
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bulletbox,
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Even sheep are smart enough to shade up when it gets over 100....

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#1931301 - 04/02/10 05:43 PM Re: Coons and Borax??????? [Re: HobbieTrapper]
TINEMASTER Offline
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Registered: 02/13/09
Loc: NORTHERN NJ
Originally Posted By: HobbieTrapper
I ain't saying to do it and I ain't saying don't do it but I will say this....I was told, "If you put fur up like it is suppose to be put up you don't need Borax".


wether you handle fur correct or not doesnt matter when it comes to certain things humidity heat insects freezing temps super hot days cool nights whoever quoted you that needs a lesson in fur themselves
and to answer the initial question it wont hurt anything
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