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#175886 - 04/12/07 12:05 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: Asa Lenon]
DLM Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 660
Loc: Maine
Pure skunk mixed in heated (liquified) vaseline (it hardens back up when it cools)is the mainstay lure for marten & fisher trappers here in Maine during really cold weather. You slap a gob on the tree. Next time through you rub it with a stick to expose more, so the scent being released is stronger. It works the best for us in real cold weather. Alot of other oils/greases reduce the strenght of the skunk odor some what.

I usually use ground beaver castor, marten/fisher glands mixed in fish oil on sets before it get really cold.

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#176156 - 04/12/07 03:23 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: DLM]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 2325
Loc: SW Pa
As with any well prepared product whether it be a lure or bait a preservative should be used in the formula to guard against bacteria growth. Vegetable oils are processed very well and will hold nicely for a consumer based lure product. It would be good advice to add a preservative to the mix to prevent bacterial development or tainting of the product ingredients.
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#176422 - 04/12/07 05:52 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: Bob Jameson]
Dave Plueger Offline
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Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 2448
Loc: Iowa (where the tall corn grow...
Beaver tail oil and seal oil are excellent bases and will adhere well to most oil based ingredients. Like Asa and Bob I see no advantage to peanut oil over any other vegetable oils.

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#180267 - 04/16/07 07:47 AM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: Dave Plueger]
victoria vixen Offline
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 609
Loc: Bahamas
Yes but who can get seal oil in this day and age except the Inuit or Canadians.

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#180420 - 04/16/07 10:37 AM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: ]
Ole Hawkeye Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 9569
Loc: Oregon
I wouldn't use it with my castors, but I have mixed musk and catnip oil with kaster oil from the drug store and caught fox and coon. I've also used cod liver oil with good results.
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#181054 - 04/16/07 05:54 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: Ole Hawkeye]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 16083
Loc: Central Ohio
I keep wondering why the guy just didn't freeze his castor or go elsewhere for his glycerine, my goodness every trapping supply house sells it! Why even "MTP" who sponsers this very web-site sells it for $26.00 a gallon. Did no one else think of just going somewhere else? (The trapper stated the store that he usually bought it from was sold out and wouldn't have any for several weeks.)

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#181151 - 04/16/07 07:08 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: LT GREY]
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LT GREY, I'll quote myself this time. LOL

 Originally Posted By: possum skinner

If nothing else, just freeze your ground castor until you can pick up some glycerine.



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#181288 - 04/16/07 08:29 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: ]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 16083
Loc: Central Ohio
Dang Possum skinner, My appology. Sorry I overlooked your reply. I kept wondering why no one told him where to get some.

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#181422 - 04/16/07 09:58 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: LT GREY]
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 Originally Posted By: LT GREY
They say you're a no nonsense kind of trapper.


Oh NO!!! Who are "THEY" and who you been talking to??? LOL \:\)

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#181676 - 04/17/07 09:22 AM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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lt...froze them!!!! just looking for new options...and an idea!!!

the guy!

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#182003 - 04/17/07 03:18 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: ]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 16083
Loc: Central Ohio
Well Possum, your reputation proceeds you, lets just put it that way! I am some one who "knows" a lot of people. Having been a trapper about 40 years and a lure dealer,(although certainly not a big one but I sold my 1st lure and bait in 1977) and a member of The NTA and several trapping org.s ,one could say I've been around and have a lot of "friends " in the trapping industry. I've met almost everybody who's a somebody......but what does that matter, right? \:\) As for the "chicken plucker" , when I'm out of line, I say I'm sorry. More people should try it. I'm not always right but I do always have an opinion!

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#182008 - 04/17/07 03:27 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: LT GREY]
Anonymous
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BOK..BOK!!
just plucken casters...opinions are alot like other things everyones got one...some just stink more than others..

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#182288 - 04/17/07 08:02 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: ]
Cachottier Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 104
Loc: Quebec-Canada
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Yes but who can get seal oil in this day and age except the Inuit or Canadians.


I have some genuine sunrendered seal oil made by me but cannot ship any to the USA... Sorry..LOL
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#182336 - 04/17/07 08:28 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: Cachottier]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 16083
Loc: Central Ohio
Yes we know that, eh! When I trapped white fox in Northern Manitoba, we used it and \:\) (I hear )it was smuggled into the US as a fish "by product". In 1987 members of The NTA and Ohio State Trappers Assn. tried to close my booth down when they got wind I was selling it to trappers. Of course they didn't. Who, but the privledged ,can even tell the real stuff from 20 different kinds of fish oil? EXACTLY my point! Well then! The white Alaskan trappers claim they can not even posess it, only the Inuit. You don't say! "Ou ta qualoo tuk qa nee eioo nai" (sorry I know my spelling is off).

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#182351 - 04/17/07 08:44 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: LT GREY]
KYBOY Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 4033
Loc: East, Kentucky
I like to use lanolin in some of my lures for a base. The lure second from the left has a lanolin base. You can see the yellowish color. It gives a good thick but not to thick consistancy.
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#182586 - 04/17/07 11:46 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: KYBOY]
Dtwarrow Offline
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Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 1126
Loc: OH - IO
Man them looks good and stinky, I can almost smell em from here.
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#182674 - 04/18/07 06:46 AM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: KYBOY]
Fergustrap Offline
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Registered: 02/21/07
Posts: 291
Loc: Quebec ,Canada
I use some part of seal for make my base formula in some k-9 lure with stopper cut decomposing , but the first quest is for castor base, answer just glycerin it's the best, peanut or vegetable oil freeze by very cold time

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#182888 - 04/18/07 09:52 AM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: Dtwarrow]
Asa Lenon Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 5935
Loc: Gulliver, Michigan
Better get those bottles closed KY Boy, coyotes might swarm you like honeybees by the looks of them. I agree one can almost smell them, LOL! Ace

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#183151 - 04/18/07 02:13 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: Asa Lenon]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 16083
Loc: Central Ohio
No lie there Ace. I have had coyotes come in my back yard and try to chew the lids off of 5 gallon pails of lanolin based lures.

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#183285 - 04/18/07 03:17 PM Re: LURE BASES?? [Re: LT GREY]
Asa Lenon Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 5935
Loc: Gulliver, Michigan
These Upper Michigan coyotes are a bit to wary for that. Over the years I have had on many occasions bear, bobcats, timber wolves, fox, coons, otter, mink and wild dogs try to get into my lure shed but the coyotes just circle around the periemter of the area and i've never seen one closer than 50 yards or so from the building.
Last Summer I had a bear start right inside of the building when I was stirring a barrel of coyote lure with the door open. Another time last year when I started for the lure building one morning there was a bobcat sitting on the steps sniffing through the crack along the door. Ace

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