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#1643926 - 12/08/09 03:22 PM Muskrat - Baited 110 coni trigger for rats?
JSTJ704 Offline
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Has anyone tryed apple baited 110 coni trigger on rats?? Also should the bait underwater or somewhat out.

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#1643944 - 12/08/09 03:27 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: JSTJ704]
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ive tried a slice of a potatoe under water but never had any luck. dont know about an apple
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#1643947 - 12/08/09 03:28 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: hctapper]
bmead Offline
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i have tried it and never had any luck at all but i am also wondering if it is just me that is not having sucess with it
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#1643951 - 12/08/09 03:29 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: JSTJ704]
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oh yea. Thats the only thing I do for rats in the winter. I use carrots though. I put a carrot on the prongs and put the conni on a stick and sometimes use a wedge to help stabilize it. Then just put that down through your hole in the ice. I check them every three days here. Not sure what the time is for you. But this works great for me. Even used this method is the fall too.
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#1643956 - 12/08/09 03:31 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: hctapper]
JSTJ704 Offline
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i thought maybe half way out of the water some where they can see the apple on the surfce.

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#1643958 - 12/08/09 03:32 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: JSTJ704]
JSTJ704 Offline
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Awsome thanks alot

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#1643967 - 12/08/09 03:34 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: JSTJ704]
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Myself I have not done well with bait in open water, under the ice is a bit differant. I would try and find the runs. that is a better set IMO.

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#1643981 - 12/08/09 03:37 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: ]
Riverman- Offline
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You have a point gil Turner, but in my situation finding runs is difficult. I have searched for them millions of times and have been unsucsessful. THis might be the same for JSTJ..... Try both ideas. But I think the baited 110 should be submerged. Try apples, carrots, and corn. The rats will hit better on one of these. You have to expierement
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#1643984 - 12/08/09 03:39 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Riverman-]
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Riverman, point taken sir.

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#1644035 - 12/08/09 03:56 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: ]
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#1644169 - 12/08/09 04:40 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: mtbadger]
bmead Offline
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any luck in open water?
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#1644299 - 12/08/09 05:17 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Riverman-]
Clark Offline
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Loc: Duluth, MN
Originally Posted By: Riverman-
You have a point gil Turner, but in my situation finding runs is difficult...


My experience has been much the same. Unless you get out there right after the ice is made and it made good clear ice then you can find the runs. The rest of the time, forget about it.

Getting back to the original post I've tried it under the ice. This was on a small river/creek, maybe 20-25' across and up to 8' deep. No bubble trails, all the rats are living in bank dens and there is about 6-8" of ice. We baited the conibears with carrots and then suspended them from a stick laying on the ice.

Results were disappointing but the method may have been substandard also! The rat population was getting hit hard by a disease, tough to say how much that affected the catch and how much of it was the method. I plan on trying it again sometime, just have to wait for the rat population to rebound.

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#1644336 - 12/08/09 05:30 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Clark]
TrapperConsidine Offline
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Loc: Central MN
I have done the samething as Riveman with the carrot and have luck.

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#1644529 - 12/08/09 06:31 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: TrapperConsidine]
madtrapper Offline
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I like parsnips for bait, 160's are better than 110's, by far.
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#1645011 - 12/08/09 08:39 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: madtrapper]
bmead Offline
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mad trapper under ice or open water how successfull
is it?
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#1645149 - 12/08/09 09:16 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: bmead]
trapperhs33 Offline
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does anyone have any pictures of this type of set?

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#1645530 - 12/09/09 01:38 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: trapperhs33]
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In open water you will be disappointed with a lot of snapped, empty traps.
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#1645679 - 12/09/09 07:19 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Bismuth Boy]
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Tried it one winter with baited belisle 160's, potatoes and even a slice of beaver tail on the trigger.

Instead of rats, caught a beaaver by the nose with a slice of beaver tail for bait and another small beaver by the head with a potato slices for bait. Then baited some of my 280 belisles with potato slices and caugth a bunch of beaver that way, with a couple of misses. started tying the bait to a lower jaw and bending the triggers out of the way and had no more misses, good head catches on beaver. will try the same for 'rats.

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#1645705 - 12/09/09 07:44 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Bismuth Boy]
Mike367 Offline
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I have had good luck with baited conis under the ice. Carrots work the best for me. I place my sets in small open areas in cattail patches.

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#1646677 - 12/09/09 03:36 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Mike367]
Jonathan Offline
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Loc: Northwestern New York(Elder)
This earlier post of mine may be of interest to you.

Using #110 Triggers For Holding Bait

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#1646743 - 12/09/09 04:06 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Jonathan]
PA skinner Offline
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I like a 160 with a half ear of corn on the trigger. Corn really stands out under the ice.
For beaver, have had success with quaking aspen between the bottom jaws, wired to one jaw and just hang it under the ice, in the run if possible of course. Corn also works for beaver, but is a bit of a hassle to get wired in place.
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#1647646 - 12/09/09 09:12 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: PA skinner]
Jonathan Offline
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Just thought I would stop by again to see what trips other folk's triggers on their #110's before this thread dissolves to the back pages and gets lost in the drift.

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#1647701 - 12/09/09 09:29 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Jonathan]
Dostal Offline
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Registered: 01/04/08
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Loc: Scottville, Michigan, US
ive used it with some success with 120's
they fire faster so less misses

also (not to hijack) if I put a little muskrat fur and meat on the trigger do you think I could pick up a mink?

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#1647705 - 12/09/09 09:30 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Dostal]
Dostal Offline
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Sorry I used potato slices and carrots. Both worked decently I dont favor one or another

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#1648021 - 12/10/09 04:57 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Dostal]
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I much prefer the foam, light weight and stays white forever.

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#1648084 - 12/10/09 06:22 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: nickb]
Northof50 Offline
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Registered: 12/20/08
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Loc: Manitoba
The foam last longer, cause I always get hungry when I'm using carrots. One spring off of the old style 220 covers a lot more water when they fire for captures.

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#1648139 - 12/10/09 07:11 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Northof50]
EmpireBuilder Offline
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Registered: 11/02/07
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Loc: Ioway
I have tried everything under the sun with apples on the trigger! Half out all out all under so on. I personally have yet to take one muskrat with the set! I did however have some deer walk my creek and destroyed every single set trying to get at the apples!
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#1648146 - 12/10/09 07:17 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: EmpireBuilder]
NS Trapper Offline
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Loc: Nova Scotia, Canada
On under ice sets...it shouldn't be a problem. However, I find on under ice sets when apples are used for bait they turn to mush...I use carrots or parsnips and have never experimented with styrofoam or strips of plastic.

In open water whenever I tried baiting a 110 I found 50% or greater sprung traps...

...I suggest a baited 160 if you want to go that route...you won't miss.
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#1648246 - 12/10/09 08:27 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: JSTJ704]
Greg H Offline
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Registered: 12/18/07
Posts: 102
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I have experimented with this very idea this fall but did not take pictures.
I tried setting some ponds with muskrats using carrots on the trigger at water line level and a touch of various lures.
Absolutely no takers over 2 weeks.
I then took some parsnip and put it on 110 triggers about 12 -18" under water in the deeper water between feeder huts and land.
3 feeder huts and 8 traps set. 3 muskrats and 3 tripped traps. 2 untouched.
Traps were left to sit one week while I was deer hunting.
Water was open when I set but had 3/4" to 1" ice when I returned.
Overall I think it was a success and deserves soem tweeking to improve.
One thing I noticed was to anchor traps so that when a trap fires with a catch that the rat cannot float to the top and get caught in the ice.
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#1648257 - 12/10/09 08:36 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Greg H]
tadpole Offline
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Registered: 12/02/08
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Loc: Zionsville, Indiana
I tried apples and carrots in ponds and creeks this year and still have yet to take a rat.... I will try the foam and parsnips and see if I do better.

Thanks

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#1648322 - 12/10/09 09:16 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Mike367]
Sandman79 Offline
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Registered: 04/02/09
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Loc: Wahoo, Ne
Probably depends on the location, but corn works great for rats around here... I use about a 2 to 3 inch section of an ear of corn, impale it on the trigger and set it. I catch more rats that way than any other. All my sets are below water with the 110s, I've also shucked corn on the bank and place a foothold coming out of the water with a drowning set. This will catch you some coons too.

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#1648450 - 12/10/09 10:06 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Sandman79]
madtrapper Offline
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bmead, I am using them under the ice. With 110's I average 50% or more misses, with 160,s I average 30% misses
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#1648822 - 12/10/09 01:12 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: madtrapper]
bmead Offline
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Registered: 01/08/07
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Loc: ny
ok thank you so what im getting is with a 110 you get alot of misses?, it does work in open water with parsnip?, what am i missing out of all of this?
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#1648829 - 12/10/09 01:17 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: bmead]
LT GREY Offline
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#1648905 - 12/10/09 01:43 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: LT GREY]
bmead Offline
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LT GREY- have you had sucess in open water? under ice? in ponds where they have easy acess to other food? creeks? how do you set them up?
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#1649707 - 12/10/09 06:12 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: bmead]
madtrapper Offline
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bmead, I have not tried the 110's in open water, I have gotten a lot of misses under ice.


Edited by madtrapper (12/12/09 06:47 PM)
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#1650145 - 12/10/09 08:11 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: madtrapper]
bmead Offline
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#1650218 - 12/10/09 08:31 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: bmead]
conibearking Offline
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I don't like to use corn on triggers because you can catch ducks.I use apples and carrots under ice.
There is a lake we trap that the water level is adjusted with a dam.The water level changes so often,that one day what was under water is above water the next,putting ducks at risk.
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#1650227 - 12/10/09 08:33 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: bmead]
Macthediver Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
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Loc: La Crosse, On The West Coast...
Having once had a large supply of golfballs some with muskrat chews already on them. I thought I would go for color and durability when I tried golfballs on 110 triggers under the ice. I used standard white, lime green, hot pink and orange. Sadly not one trap caught a rat. That is not to say that it would not work, it just did not work where I tried it. Maybe in a place with higher rat population it would work. Or maybe in the ponds on the golf course where the balls came from. Who knows but it would have been neat if it worked.

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#1650251 - 12/10/09 08:39 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Macthediver]
Con Offline
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Caught 3 rats with this set on open water. I like to put conibear on a tall stick an put the conibear so the bait is at the water line. Might have caught more 'rats if there had been more in that area. Baited Coni's in runs work fantastically. Watch the current as it may set off your traps.

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#1650253 - 12/10/09 08:39 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Mike367]
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I have used apple under water but the I figured out they cannt smell underwater so I put pieces of wood painter red and white on the trigger.


Edited by minnscott (12/10/09 08:54 PM)
Edit Reason: fat fingers, small keys
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#1650920 - 12/11/09 08:28 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Macthediver]
bmead Offline
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rats 60/100
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#1653956 - 12/12/09 06:11 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: bmead]
bmead Offline
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rats 60/100
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#1654287 - 12/12/09 07:54 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: bmead]
mike boehley Offline
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Registered: 12/31/06
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Loc: Western, New York
I have also tried bait trapping under ice-it seemed like it worked best when the traps were set within the runs when you can find them-or for us at the 5 foot distance from the houses-also had alot of misses with 110s started using my 220s with 1 spring-rarely missed any then-used apples and carrots.
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#1654402 - 12/12/09 08:41 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: mike boehley]
Con Offline
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hate that minimum of 5 ft from houses in NY

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#1655880 - 12/13/09 03:31 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Con]
bmead Offline
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Loc: ny
me to con im in forestville nice to see anouther trapper around me i thought they were all gone
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#1655977 - 12/13/09 04:03 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: bmead]
trapperkid135 Offline
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Loc: ghent ny
yea thats a pain
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#1656226 - 12/13/09 05:20 PM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: trapperkid135]
Con Offline
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Registered: 01/13/09
Posts: 493
Loc: Randolph, New York
Not too many trappers left, 's too bad.

Still wish we could set on or nearer to the houses, its a real pain sometimes when 5 feet away is 5 feet underwater.

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#1675885 - 12/22/09 12:01 AM Re: Baited 110 coni trigger for rats? [Re: Con]
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i am using white pvc pipe this week. i will see what happens
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