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What's up with the Griz's ? #1628675
12/01/09 10:38 PM
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I've been using the Griz trap for 3 years now as a supplement to my usual sets. I own 20 of them and have caught 50 to 60 coon in them coon every year up til around Thanksgiving and then they just go cold.

They are a great trap early for me, but decline rapidly in their catch ratio as the season progresses. Has anybody else experinced this? I see where coon just walk by and ignore them no matter what bait and lure I seem to use.

I have a trapping friend that I encouraged to try them and he had great results early and was going to buy a bunch more for next year, but is now expiencing the same reaults later in the season.

Any thought's or advice from people who have late season success with them would be great.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: lobo] #1628678
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I'm doing good in creeks. Been using real fishy bait, with a tad bit of sweet in it.


Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: TrappinGirl] #1628697
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I have great success on late season with marshmellows. But every thing has went cold on me since the last moon change I have tried every thing with no consistancey I don't know what is going on got me baffled.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: Hal Aggers] #1628701
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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: 2020] #1628778
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I agree that the catching is slow now. I pulled 66 sets today prior to our second deer season. Managed 6 meager coon and my first in a Griz in 3 days out of 18 sets.

Opening day I caught 8 coon out of 12 Griz sets. The ground I'm on now has only been set for 5 days. Caught 42 coon out of those 66 sets. 18 sets were Griz's that accounted for 4 coon total in 5 days.

Keep in mind, I'm not bashing the Griz trap. I love them. Just scratching my head trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

This pattern has been going on for 3 years.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: lobo] #1628801
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Is it always about the same time frame in your season or does it continue for the rest of the season.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: Hal Aggers] #1628840
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My season usually last about a month on coon. By then, I have covered the majority of my ground. Lack of fresh territory and the weather causes me to switch to rats and beaver.

Yes, the timeframe from Thanksgiving on till second week of December my Griz's have gone cold every year.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: lobo] #1628853
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Look outside at the moon. Happens for me every full moon on cloudless nights.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: ] #1628861
12/01/09 11:41 PM
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I would also wonder what kind of bait you are using. I know when it starts getting cold at night that even fish oil isn't strong enough to cut it, and most guys go to a mix of shellfish oil to help combat the cold. I would say, however, that it would probably be the full moon/cloudless night combo that is really killing you.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: ] #1628867
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BuckNe, I understand the moon deal. I've been trapping coon for over 40 years. Just trying to figure out the drop off in Griz catches as season progresses. Any ideas?

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: lobo] #1628917
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sws002 I'm using the sane bait and lure that I use in my pocket sets. The pocket sets are slow, but hit at around 10 to 15 % while the Griz's have about a 2 % success.

I think you guys have answered my queation. There is no simple answer. It's just trapping and learning and I'm still learning.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: lobo] #1628965
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The food source has changed and the coon have moved to where the eating Is.
And just maybe you caught most of the easy coon. If you caught 10 coon off one location the catch Is bound to drop off. Move on.
This system works for me. When the catch starts to drop off I move and stay gone for more then 2 or 3 weeks then I come back and hit those locations again. It seems when you give a location a rest It seems to re bound. Just maybe some of the remaining coon get a little catch shy, not trap shy but catch shy.


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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: The Beav] #1629046
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One thing I have noticed is that as the rut comes on the coon slow down. Coon will have a real strong feeding period just before the rut then slow down a lot. You will also notice at times you will catch loads of female coons , just before they stay denned up for the rut.
Also as far as the moon is concerned. I have seen some of my best catches just as the moon starts it's first quarter. Generally you can catch pretty good untill about 2-3 days before the full moon and a couple days after the full moon. There is about a week that coon do not run worth a hoot . Or at least the time frame of feeding is poor durring that time.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: don Wolf] #1629153
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Try putting your sets in heavier cover during the full moon...works for me. Tom

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: tmrschessie] #1629183
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You have to get into the deep cover in full moon. Cattails ect. Just my opinion , but is where my dog has to go to find one. Old partner showed me that years ago. Also notice a slow down with Grizz in the time frame just before freeze-up. Am able to improve some by using sweet bait on lip, marshmellow in trap, and a strong lure above trap (usually on tree or limb). I'm not targeting coon this year , so don't have my dogproofs out . But this system is what usually works for me.


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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: Dillrod] #1630796
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The Beav, I rotate my line every 5 to 7 days and make new sets everyday when I'm not straddled with being at work. The moon deal is what it is. It does hamper the catch somewhat I agree.

To make a long story short. The Griz's out produce the conventional sets for the first few weeks and the conventional sets (water sets and coni trails) out produce the Griz's as the season progresses regardless of conditions.

That's the point I'm trying to make. I know a little about the reasons coon do what they do. This ain't my first rodeo. I just can't figure out why the coons could care less about the Griz's later on. Any Griz experts out there?

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: lobo] #1630884
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I used them some during the summer and wasn't impressed with the catch %. I set a doz next to cubbys and never had a coon in the griz. Both baited the same.


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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: MJM] #1630907
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for some of my ADC jobs this summer i used grizz and hammered the coon.. this season has been horrible for catches in grizz. i had them set on the river bank.... for like 23 grizz set for say 15 days i maybe caught 6 coon from them... just horrible.... for example, i did a few tests on the river, pocket set, castor mound set and grizz set, all in a small area... and i had other spots with traps rotated.... for the majority it was pocket sets, castor sets, and grizz with very poor results... awesome trap, i love em and am buying more... i am no longer gonna use them for river trapping but for the cold winter rut... inbetween denning sites works the best for me.


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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: BUD25] #1631750
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Full moon syndrome.


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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: BigBob] #1632207
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coon aint interested in bait syndrome, thats what footholds with deep dirtholes and good predator lure is for.


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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: lobo] #1635144
12/04/09 10:12 PM
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I've been following this post. Here's few pictures of todays run.








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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: castor] #1635463
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could it be cold metal and the coons do not want to touch it?


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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: water trapper] #1635513
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I here tell this Reed guy was 1 of the 2 original Grizz tester's so i'm guessing he know's alittle about'em. I was having coon's walk by my Grizz's a week ago and upon a reccomenadtion from a good friend of mine I switched to Mackeral and grabber's and am having much better result's.

Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: lobo] #1635816
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I think this year coon movement has been strange at best.But the trap has preformed for me just as it has in the past.
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Re: What's up with the Griz's ? [Re: castor] #1635822
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I agree with castor on the coon movement. When I thought they would move well, they did not. Almost feel I have been working harder to target them than I did last season. I am right on par with last year to date. 70 out of 73 coon came via the coon tube.

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