Dad and I are making some concrete drags.




The mold. The wire keeps the concrete from chipping.


Pouring the concrete.



The cylinder mold.

Can't wait to see how they turn out!

cool

I would hate to have to carry them around!!

I hope you don't have to carry them very far. LOL

We are wonderin' how we're gonna get them out...

You might as well stake them yote cause they aint goin nowhere tied to them!!!

Those should be fun to haul around! You could use them to dig your dirthole under though.

The rectangular one is 3-5 inches deep, and the cylinder is about a foot deep.

Still gunna be heavy enough they wont go nowhere.

I sure hope you aren't planning on tying off to that wire because them coyotes are gonna be running around the countryside with ankle bracelets. You may as well park your 4 wheeler out there and chain off to it.

The wire is to hold up the chain while the cement dries.

So then what is the terminal end gonna be?

The chain.

Secondly, I don't SEE any chain.
First, WHY????

i see the chain

and because they want to

Sorry!

See it now?

The chain is on the cylinder too, but it is blocked by the rebar.

Exactly!lol

lol, i see it even better in the new pic. now

I do NOW, but now I'm wondering how Ray saw it before you posted the new pic???

Oh well, hope it works for you.
Good luck!

Ditto. Out.

If you look hard enough in the 3rd pic. you can see it

You can see it in the shadow.

Whats the weight?

We don't know the weight yet 'cause it hasn't dried up

I can see you and your dad spending the day together making stuff for the trapline but I can't see using cement. Maybe picking up some rebar and bending it into drags would have proved a bit more practical. If you were to go out and set 20 traps and wanted a drag for each, not only will you kill your back but you'll probably kill your vehicle.

Not saying there isn't one, but what is the advantage of these over stakes?

I really don't know. My dad just got the idea and we were just trying it out.
(I'm exepting donations for an excavater. )
Can't wait 'til tomorrow when the cement dries. I predict we'll be callin' the peramedics more than once.

Let us know how you make out with them.

Looks good to me trappercharlie.

That's something Del Kramer talked about in his book. I think y'all will do fine with them. Backing and rock drag all in one!

Norm

Thinking outside the box is how some GREAT ideas came about. Keep us posted on how they work out for you.

Drifter

Just add dirt and sand to add color . Trapping 101 is a good book for anyone to start trapping with.

What kind of hole you going to have to dig to bed those suckers?

I can see it for beaver, but not for a coyote set where you have to hide it all.

-TJ

hope they work for ya

I made some concrete beaver drowners an easier way to make a cylinder mold is to just use a 5 gallon bucket. I just fold a foot long piece of rebar in half and shove the two ends in then you have an anchor point. when dry just flip the bucket over and tap on the bottom of the bucket and they fall right out

Would you have to hide it if you left it at a good location all year? Use it as backing for a dirthole or flat set?

I'd agree with Drifter on this one, you're thinking much more creatively than 99% of the guys on this forum. You could be coming up with something that works extremely well for you. If it doesn't work what have you lost? An hour or two and a couple of bags of quick-crete? Big deal.

Clark

Clark and drifter is right, i agree with them, also you can tote those things to a creek bank make a good pocket and you never ever have to worry about having a place to stake you trap or fix a drowning location, if you loose it at the location, just take a cheap metal detector and find the chain, also you can make some that would resemble a log that is fallen in the woods with a knot hole for future sets just add cement dye, its gonna be a lot of work toting them to your locations, but once there they are their.
Good luck

We aren't gonna camoflouge them. We leave them that color so if a yote walks a long way away he'll see it, get curious, walk over to it, and get caught.

I got some of those light weight plastic buckets and used them for forms instead of digging a hole. Put a plastic liner in the bucket first and the finished product will slide out easier.

Well, they need a new name tho.

I'd call them "concrete weights" cause nothing short of a mammoth is gonna "drag" that thing anywhere, lol!

I think this is a pretty good idea tho. I do have a few suggestions:

Beaver: You can scout out your beaver locations ahead of season and go make the weights on-location. Make it a cylinder tho. The reason being for the cylindrical shape is for the ease of getting it out of the ground. (You can use old tin stove pipe for the mold maybe?) Pour it near the bank of the river/stream/pond. Come back later when it's set. Dig around the cylinder, making a sort of ramp for it, and roll it into deep water. Rolling will be much easier than picking it up.

I would suggest dying the thing so it doesn't attract human attention. For one, humans will think of concrete in the middle of the woods as a sort of littering. Also, you don't want hikers/hunters/other outdoorsy types investigating your block, trying to figure it out. Make it brown so it's just like a log.

Unless you leave it out in the woods/fields for weeks, canines probably won't want to investigate it. They usually hate new things that suddenly appear in their environment. Some of the trappers on here have called it "neophobia," fear of new things. If it seems more natural, they might adjust to it better. Perhaps cover it up with divets of grass? I'm no expert so you might want to consult some K-9 men about that one.

are you going to hire people to get it in and out of the truck?

I use logs the same way. I keep out a couple dozen sticks of fire wood from the splitter to use in these giant hay/sod fields. Trap is already fastened to the log and i just drive around, flippin the logs into the feild. Works as a backing, a drag, and eye appeal. After a catch, just move it over a little and reset. Its quicker than staking, quicker to move, and makes it easy to find 20 or so sets in a giant hay or sod feild....shane

why not just use concrete cinder blocks?

Might even cast a lure hole into them. The florists ahve the small water vials with a cap that way the concrete wouldn't smell the same from absorbtion.

Drifter

Zagman has used these in certain situations. He is one of the premier coyote trappers out east.

They're not as heavy, and they don't have chains attached to them.
Well, I just checked them, and they're almost dry.

Sounds like a good idea. I don't know if you get much snow there or not...but if you do I'd recommend painting one side black. That way you can have that thing really stand out when you want to do some nasty weather trapping.

Clark

It's dry, and almost time to pull out.
And clark, the concrete dry's grey, so that probably wont be a problem

The rectangular block. It's covered in mud, so it's kinda hard to see.



The cylinder.


The holes.


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Sorry the pic wont show up.

The concrete is still a bit soft. It chipped some, but it'll work.

Hope your big and strong. Why not use the standard method for holding traps in place. Looks like a lot of trouble for a yote.