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#1581934 - 11/07/09 02:07 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: DaveP]
ray12 Offline
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Registered: 01/26/09
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Loc: sugarcreek OH,13yrs old
If you look hard enough in the 3rd pic. you can see it
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#1581935 - 11/07/09 02:07 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: DaveP]
trappercharlie Offline
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Registered: 03/29/09
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Loc: southwest Virginia
You can see it in the shadow.
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#1581943 - 11/07/09 02:15 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: trappercharlie]
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Registered: 07/31/07
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Loc: Green Bay, Wisconsin-40yrs
Whats the weight?
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#1582092 - 11/07/09 04:11 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: Blackdog]
trappercharlie Offline
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Registered: 03/29/09
Posts: 296
Loc: southwest Virginia
We don't know the weight yet 'cause it hasn't dried up
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#1582128 - 11/07/09 04:33 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: trappercharlie]
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Registered: 12/17/07
Posts: 2245
Loc: Port Jervis, NY
I can see you and your dad spending the day together making stuff for the trapline but I can't see using cement. Maybe picking up some rebar and bending it into drags would have proved a bit more practical. If you were to go out and set 20 traps and wanted a drag for each, not only will you kill your back but you'll probably kill your vehicle.

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#1582133 - 11/07/09 04:36 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: beachcomber13]
MJM Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1706
Loc: ND
Not saying there isn't one, but what is the advantage of these over stakes?
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#1582144 - 11/07/09 04:41 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: MJM]
trappercharlie Offline
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Registered: 03/29/09
Posts: 296
Loc: southwest Virginia
Originally Posted By: MJM
Not saying there isn't one, but what is the advantage of these over stakes?
I really don't know. My dad just got the idea and we were just trying it out.
(I'm exepting donations for an excavater. grin)
Can't wait 'til tomorrow when the cement dries. I predict we'll be callin' the peramedics more than once.grin


Edited by trappercharlie (11/07/09 04:45 PM)
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#1582152 - 11/07/09 04:45 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: trappercharlie]
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Registered: 12/09/07
Posts: 5433
Loc: Reynoldsville, Pa 46
Let us know how you make out with them.
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#1582173 - 11/07/09 05:01 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: Denny Emery]
Norm Mullins Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 25
Loc: Wardell, VA
Looks good to me trappercharlie.

That's something Del Kramer talked about in his book. I think y'all will do fine with them. Backing and rock drag all in one!

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#1582363 - 11/07/09 06:26 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: Norm Mullins]
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Thinking outside the box is how some GREAT ideas came about. Keep us posted on how they work out for you.

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#1582539 - 11/07/09 07:45 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: Drifter]
red webb Offline
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 240
Loc: Carroll County Va
Just add dirt and sand to add color . Trapping 101 is a good book for anyone to start trapping with.

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#1582651 - 11/07/09 08:38 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: red webb]
Top Jimmy Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 4080
Loc: Alaska, USA
What kind of hole you going to have to dig to bed those suckers?

I can see it for beaver, but not for a coyote set where you have to hide it all.

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#1582665 - 11/07/09 08:46 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: trappercharlie]
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Registered: 01/19/08
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Loc: Kentucky 14yrs old
Originally Posted By: trappercharlie
Dad and I are making some concrete drags.




The mold. The wire keeps the concrete from chipping.


Pouring the concrete.



The cylinder mold.

Can't wait to see how they turn out!






hope they work for ya
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#1582736 - 11/07/09 09:34 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: coon scat]
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Registered: 03/14/09
Posts: 182
Loc: illinois
I made some concrete beaver drowners an easier way to make a cylinder mold is to just use a 5 gallon bucket. I just fold a foot long piece of rebar in half and shove the two ends in then you have an anchor point. when dry just flip the bucket over and tap on the bottom of the bucket and they fall right out

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#1582811 - 11/07/09 10:23 PM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: Top Jimmy]
Clark Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 786
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: Top Jimmy
What kind of hole you going to have to dig to bed those suckers?

I can see it for beaver, but not for a coyote set where you have to hide it all.

-TJ


Would you have to hide it if you left it at a good location all year? Use it as backing for a dirthole or flat set?

I'd agree with Drifter on this one, you're thinking much more creatively than 99% of the guys on this forum. You could be coming up with something that works extremely well for you. If it doesn't work what have you lost? An hour or two and a couple of bags of quick-crete? Big deal.

Clark
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#1582957 - 11/08/09 01:48 AM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: Clark]
leo23 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/07
Posts: 1100
Loc: tornado alley, Okla
Clark and drifter is right, i agree with them, also you can tote those things to a creek bank make a good pocket and you never ever have to worry about having a place to stake you trap or fix a drowning location, if you loose it at the location, just take a cheap metal detector and find the chain, also you can make some that would resemble a log that is fallen in the woods with a knot hole for future sets just add cement dye, its gonna be a lot of work toting them to your locations, but once there they are their.
Good luck
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#1583023 - 11/08/09 05:47 AM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: leo23]
trappercharlie Offline
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Registered: 03/29/09
Posts: 296
Loc: southwest Virginia
We aren't gonna camoflouge them. We leave them that color so if a yote walks a long way away he'll see it, get curious, walk over to it, and get caught.
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#1583024 - 11/08/09 05:48 AM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: j morris]
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 3807
Loc: Estherville, IA
I got some of those light weight plastic buckets and used them for forms instead of digging a hole. Put a plastic liner in the bucket first and the finished product will slide out easier.
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#1583075 - 11/08/09 06:37 AM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: TexA 67 & going]
Tsarevna Offline
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Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 3361
Loc: Portland, OR
Well, they need a new name tho.

I'd call them "concrete weights" cause nothing short of a mammoth is gonna "drag" that thing anywhere, lol!

I think this is a pretty good idea tho. I do have a few suggestions:

Beaver: You can scout out your beaver locations ahead of season and go make the weights on-location. Make it a cylinder tho. The reason being for the cylindrical shape is for the ease of getting it out of the ground. (You can use old tin stove pipe for the mold maybe?) Pour it near the bank of the river/stream/pond. Come back later when it's set. Dig around the cylinder, making a sort of ramp for it, and roll it into deep water. Rolling will be much easier than picking it up. smile

I would suggest dying the thing so it doesn't attract human attention. For one, humans will think of concrete in the middle of the woods as a sort of littering. Also, you don't want hikers/hunters/other outdoorsy types investigating your block, trying to figure it out. Make it brown so it's just like a log.

Unless you leave it out in the woods/fields for weeks, canines probably won't want to investigate it. They usually hate new things that suddenly appear in their environment. Some of the trappers on here have called it "neophobia," fear of new things. If it seems more natural, they might adjust to it better. Perhaps cover it up with divets of grass? I'm no expert so you might want to consult some K-9 men about that one.
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#1583172 - 11/08/09 08:07 AM Re: Concrete Coyote Drags [Re: j morris]
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Registered: 01/06/09
Posts: 930
Loc: Gresham, Nebraska
are you going to hire people to get it in and out of the truck?
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