#1581259 - 11/06/09 11:13 PM
How not to get shot
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Got this in an e-mail from a cop friend the other day. I think it's pretty good advice.
Rules So Not To be Shot By The Police 1. Don't commit a crime. It seems rather elementary, Sherlock, that crime is a high-risk occupation/recreational pursuit, but that seems to escape some folks. They do a crime, get shot and wonder how this could possibly happen. So don't beat your spouse. Don't rip off a convenience store. Don't do a drive-by shooting. Don't get spaced out on drugs. Don't sell drugs. Don't do a hit and run. Don't get drunk and go for a spin in your car. Don't get in a fight. In case you've missed it, crime makes cops think you're not such a good person. Society expects cops to go after you. With loaded guns!!!
2. If you ignore rule No. 1 and they find you, don't try to flee. This just makes them think you're even a badder guy. Don't try to escape. Don't run red lights or ignore stop signs. Don't race through residential neighborhoods where children are playing or speed down crowded freeways. Don't sneak into some innocent person's home or backyard. Don't hide in the bushes or in a closet or under the back porch. Makes cops think you're up to no good.
3. If you disregard rules 1 and 2, and they still catch up to you, don't disobey a cop's orders. Do exactly as he or she says. Don't make fast movements with your hands. Don't reach under your seat. Don't go for your coat pocket. Don't grab a shiny beer can or a tire iron or, for heck's sake, a toy gun. Do exactly what you're told. To do otherwise makes cops really edgy.
4. If you're boneheaded enough to disregard rules 1, 2 and 3 and you're still alive and somehow manage to get a gun or knife in your hand, don't point the gun at anyone. Don't act aggressively. Don't wave the knife around. Don't lunge at an officer. Don't shout that you want to die and you're going to take a few cops with you. This really gets them riled up.
5. If you've disobeyed rules 1, 2, 3 and 4, and amazingly, you're still breathing, don't expect your friendly neighborhood cop to be an instant psychiatrist. Don't expect him or her to understand that you're basically a nice person who's had a really bad day and this is just your way of crying out for help. Don't expect a cop to feel sorry that your wife left you, your dog growled at you and you're tired of the lousy weather. Don't expect him or her to empathize with your bad childhood or that society has done you a raw deal.
If you get to rule No. 4 and you violate it, you won't have time to think about rule No. 5, because you'll be dead or seriously injured. So think about it in advance. Cops aren't psychiatrists. We can't expect them to analyze a fleeing, gun-wielding criminal and conclude he's really just a lost soul trying to communicate his angst to the world. We expect them to react to an immediate threat and not worry about what's going on inside a person's head. Most shootings do follow, at least roughly, some part of the pattern described above. So I have a hard time criticizing an officer who must make a split-second decision in a terribly dangerous situation. Even if the officer makes a mistake, even if the person didn't really have a weapon, even if the person isn't hardened criminal but a petty teenage thief, I can't fault the officer. It's pretty simple. If you don't want to get shot by a cop, don't commit a crime. Don't run. Don't disobey. If you do those things and you end up with a bullet hole, whose fault is it? If we take crime seriously, cops have to play for keeps. Personally, I'm awfully glad the police officers are out there going after the bad guys.
Edited by Ole Hawkeye (11/06/09 11:16 PM)
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#1581270 - 11/06/09 11:37 PM
Re: How not to get shot
[Re: Ole Hawkeye]
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Make sense to me!...shane
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#1581305 - 11/07/09 12:50 AM
Re: How not to get shot
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Another note too... Cops have families and want to see the them at the end of the shift. Not take chances with some fool who has no regaurd for his life or the lives of others.
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#1581328 - 11/07/09 01:47 AM
Re: How not to get shot
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I agree. Back when commom sense was common, an article like this would have been like writing that the sky is blue.
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#1581353 - 11/07/09 04:18 AM
Re: How not to get shot
[Re: superfatcat]
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Great advice, the worse thing to tell a small kid is "that cop will get you" instead of the cops are your friends. The best friend anyone has on the highways are the Highway Patrolmen. neil
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#1581615 - 11/07/09 09:31 AM
Re: How not to get shot
[Re: neil]
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Make sure to watch "COPS" on TV. And don't do as they do.
However, I have noticed when there are 2 or more cops on the scene, they will scream conflicting orders and good luck with that!
If you can't do the time, then don't do the crime.
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#1581924 - 11/07/09 02:04 PM
Re: How not to get shot
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Ten Things Not To Say When A Cop Pulls You Over
10. I can't reach my license unless you hold my beer.
9. Hey, is that a 9mm? That's nothing compared to this 44 magnum.
8. You must have been doing 125 to keep up with me.....good job.
7. Sorry officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.
6. I was going to be a cop, but I decided to finish high school instead.
5. Wow, you look just like the guy in the picture on my girlfriends night stand.
4. I thought you had to be in relatively good physical shape to be a police officer.
3. Well, when I reached down to pick up my bag of crack, my gun fell off of my lap and got lodged between the brake and the gas pedal, forcing me to speed out of control.
2. Is it true that people become cops because they are too dumb to work at McDonalds?
1. I was just trying to keep up with traffic!
Edited by Ole Hawkeye (11/07/09 02:05 PM)
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#1581960 - 11/07/09 02:41 PM
Re: How not to get shot
[Re: Ole Hawkeye]
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Hey, is that a 9mm? That's nothing compared to this 44 magnum. What's wrong with that?
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#1581969 - 11/07/09 02:49 PM
Re: How not to get shot
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Ole Hawkeye, your first entry was funny and true, the second was is just insane. Any time Ive been pulled over by a cop (see hawkeye, Im keeping them in mind) I always keep my hands on top of the steering wheel until they are right up next to me. Well, as soon as I see the lights I turn off the radio. If you have music with bad lyrics your giving the officer a bad vibe and bad first impression. Out of the 4 times Ive been pulled over Ive never gotten a ticket except for something non-driving related. Ive always shown respect (yes sir, no mam) kind of deal. Although one time I got pulled over by a city officer in moorefield, wv and I accidently said "no ma'am" to a male cop. Thank god the officer was in good mood. I had just gotten of work delivering pizzas and I worked with all females. I was also taught the "yes sir, no sir thing." The officer just said "aaaaaawwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeee common man" and I was going "Im so so sorry, I just got off work and I work with all females." He laughed really hard about it checked my id to make sure I wasnt the person he was looking for, asked me if I had been drinking and I told him I had just gotten off work and I dont believe in drinking and driving and risking someone elses life. He let me go on my way and everytime he came in to fox's pizza I was embarrassed. He would joke with me about it to the other officers. But respect goes a long ways. Saved my butt many a time.
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#1581970 - 11/07/09 02:50 PM
Re: How not to get shot
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yeah I gotta start doing paragraphs. sorry guys and gals wfasig-
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#1581974 - 11/07/09 02:53 PM
Re: How not to get shot
[Re: jimbo_4]
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Please refer to Rule #3 on How Not to get Shot.
Having a gun in your hand during a traffic stop, no matter how friendly you are acting, tends to make cops a little edgy. That's when they will have their own gun in their hand and start yelling at you. Can you blame them? They are trained not to let you get the drop on them.
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#1581979 - 11/07/09 02:59 PM
Re: How not to get shot
[Re: Ole Hawkeye]
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I was just havin fun hawk, lol. They know I have a gun before they even walk up to me. I still have my permit ready and hand it with my license. They typically ask where it is, and sometimes what I'm carrying. It's either my .357 mag or .45 USP. Depending on the officer, we may even talk guns for a minute, just depends who it is though. I let them start that conversation though!
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#1581983 - 11/07/09 03:03 PM
Re: How not to get shot
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I know you were!
When I was traveling outside of my county I had the holstered piece and my badge on the dashboard on the passenger's side. As the cop approached I had BOTH hands out the window with my billfold taking my drivers license out. Before he ever got to the window I would tell him where it was.
Edited by Ole Hawkeye (11/07/09 03:04 PM)
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#1582044 - 11/07/09 03:43 PM
Re: How not to get shot
[Re: Ole Hawkeye]
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Ten Things Not To Say When A Cop Pulls You Over
10. I can't reach my license unless you hold my beer.
9. Hey, is that a 9mm? That's nothing compared to this 44 magnum.
8. You must have been doing 125 to keep up with me.....good job.
7. Sorry officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.
6. I was going to be a cop, but I decided to finish high school instead.
5. Wow, you look just like the guy in the picture on my girlfriends night stand.
4. I thought you had to be in relatively good physical shape to be a police officer.
3. Well, when I reached down to pick up my bag of crack, my gun fell off of my lap and got lodged between the brake and the gas pedal, forcing me to speed out of control.
2. Is it true that people become cops because they are too dumb to work at McDonalds?
1. I was just trying to keep up with traffic!
How about, Hey I have one donut left, you want it?????
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