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#1574177 - 11/03/09 12:15 PM Coyotes East/West
scalloper Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 234
Loc: Maine
A freind of mine has traped profesionly all over the US. He told me he thinks that Coyotes out west are easier to trap then the coyotes in Newengland. He said the conditions here are the worst for K-9 traping but they are also,in his opion, alot harder to catch.He said he has never herd of the big catches in the East that he and others would get out West and the same tactics that are used out west will not work as well in the East. I was just woundering if anyone else has had this experence?
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23 Partridge
10 beaver
5 Halibut
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1 Bear
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1 Porkeypine
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#1574301 - 11/03/09 01:46 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: scalloper]
LT GREY Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 10600
Loc: Central Ohio
Coyotes are coyotes over-all.

True our coyotes here are larger and our trapping conditions aren't as favorible, (with all the rain, sleet, mud, wet snows, freezing rain, mud, mud, mud, then it will dry up for a week,
more rain, freezing over night, wet snow dries up, more rain....( well you get my drift!) than the much drier condition that most western states have. But coyotes are still coyotes over-all.

There are some guys trapping 100 plus coyotes here in the east.
Not as many as out west, but there are some.
Here we have smaller farms, stricter laws, people problems, dog problems etc. but we still have a good many coyotes in some areas.

If someone really wants to work at it, they can catch a 100 plus coyotes here.
It's a lot to deal with, weather wise and our coyotes are a low grade meaning there isn't much to be made on the fur market skinning eastern coyotes.

As far as them being harder...ummmm, not really.
The trapping conditions suck for most of the season but the coyotes aren't any smarter!

I snare most of my coyotes.

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#1574632 - 11/03/09 04:44 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: LT GREY]
scalloper Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 234
Loc: Maine
Thanks. Snaring would make a huge difference. I know a guy that had never traped a coon but when we could snare coyotes in the 90's this guy snared 78 in his first winter with very strict rules and only on deer yards. I had a great area when I started setting traps on the 18 of Oct. but when my sent started showing up they blew out and changed where there travel routes and there not in the area neerly as often.
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37 Ducks
23 Partridge
10 beaver
5 Halibut
2 Moose
1 Bear
4 Coyote
2 Bobcat
2 Coon
1 Porkeypine
1 Ermin
2 rat
1 Otter

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#1574679 - 11/03/09 05:04 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: scalloper]
coontrap Offline
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Registered: 07/13/08
Posts: 103
Loc: georgetown,KY
I cought 117 coyotes last year in here in KY,most with #2 and bridgers and cast jaw 650's and worked hard at it for 28 days,considering what I earned at the fur sale I came out on the short end by a mile. I do love trapping for them but will probably spend more time after beaver and coon this year.
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#1574831 - 11/03/09 06:21 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: coontrap]
MJM Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1707
Loc: ND
I feel the biggest thing about catching a large number of any type animal is having a large number of animals. Next is access to enough land to be where there is a large population. You have way better odds in a highly populated coyote area.
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#1574843 - 11/03/09 06:24 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: MJM]
coontrap Offline
trapper

Registered: 07/13/08
Posts: 103
Loc: georgetown,KY
Absolutly,you cant catch what isnt there
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#1574921 - 11/03/09 06:40 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: coontrap]
scalloper Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 234
Loc: Maine
How many sets did you have out to catch that many? You dont have ice to contend with do you?
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10 beaver
5 Halibut
2 Moose
1 Bear
4 Coyote
2 Bobcat
2 Coon
1 Porkeypine
1 Ermin
2 rat
1 Otter

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#1575954 - 11/04/09 08:10 AM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: scalloper]
MJM Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1707
Loc: ND
18 degress here this AM. It was down to 15 the other day. Most the time by the 10th of Nov I can walk across the sloughs on ice. So we get ice here. Down to -35 or -40 every year. Sometimes a little cooler. We get allot of drifting snow here.
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#1576655 - 11/04/09 04:14 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: scalloper]
coontrap Offline
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Registered: 07/13/08
Posts: 103
Loc: georgetown,KY
35-40 sets and about a dozen snares. I use mostly a large dirt hole set with a scent post fairly close by. My best one day catch was 11,10 in coil springs one in a snare. Dont usually have any ice problems,just mud.
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#1576686 - 11/04/09 04:35 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: coontrap]
tmrschessie Offline

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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 5367
Loc: South Central Nebraska
Having hunted coyotes in many parts of the country, I can attest to the increased numbers in the west. More public ground, fewer people and good food base for the yotes. It was not uncomon to call in 3 to 5 at a time. Had as many as 12 respond in late season. Tom
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#1578867 - 11/05/09 06:27 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: tmrschessie]
cmr2 Online   content
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Registered: 02/26/09
Posts: 151
Loc: west central indiana
sounds like the rest of the country only less houses ,people i think the yote is a yote doing his thing the same everywhere , they are in a competion for food everywhere ,and on a late season just about every where one get good number to respond ,just have to be in at the right time ,and have it in your favor

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#1579259 - 11/05/09 08:31 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: coontrap]
K9.Trapper Offline
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Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 1710
Loc: Kentucky....14y/o
Originally Posted By: coontrap
35-40 sets and about a dozen snares. I use mostly a large dirt hole set with a scent post fairly close by. My best one day catch was 11,10 in coil springs one in a snare. Dont usually have any ice problems,just mud.

we have some bad ice problems, especially last year, remake your set one night, go back and there is 2 foot snow over em, or 4 inches of sleet. for 2 weeks, it tripped trap and left em.
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#1579360 - 11/05/09 09:12 PM Re: Coyotes East/West [Re: K9.Trapper]
Slim Pedersen Offline
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Registered: 01/01/07
Posts: 804
Loc: Georgia
Been around myself, all over the west, midwest, and East. Sorry troops, but coyotes are coyotes. Some are bigger, some are smarter, some are dumber--EVERYWHERE. Trapping conditions vary drastically in each and every locality.

Everyone always thinks they have it tougher.

minus thirty five to fourty degrees with three to four feet of snow is tough. Rain daily is tough. Rain, freeze, thaw, refreeze is tough. Hard baked clay soil is tough. Loose bottomless sand is tough. Very little topsoil and solid deadpan bedrock is tough. Everywhere has something to deal with that is tough. Worst conditions are lots of people and small plots of land==everything else is relative.

There is no shangrila No place is perfect, and no place has it too much worse than any other does.

Calling coyotes, is no doubt more difficult in the east than in most of the west, or even midwest for that matter----AGAIN, a people problem, not less coyotes or smarter coyotes.

Learning to live with what you have is difficult, but never impossible. Sure some have it better, but many have it worse in some other places----The people problems I mean!!!!! Not more, or less coyotes, or smarter or dumber coyotes. Just different problems.
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