is there a difference between a trap master and a lil grizz? if so can you please explain it. and what would you suggest lil grizz or trap master. where is the chepest place to buy either of them?
thanks

lil griz trap masters have a push down trigger lil griz is a pull type of trigger

Click on the link on my signature and request a catolog. They sell trap masters for 11.95 each. They don't have them on there site.

Trapmasters also have a pull type trigger.

The price has gone up lately.

The Trapmaster is a cheap imitation of the Griz, and is not a GRIZ.

There are still some Duke (China made) Trapmasters out there for sale for $11.95. Jim McCulloch (the original maker) is now producing the Trapmaster again, here in Indiana. At the NTA in Lima, the new Trapmasters was selling for $18.95 ea.

My 60 Trapmasters still catches coon after coon.

ttt

best thing to do is look around for the best prices, they both have the same purpose, the griz is a heavier duty trap with a better spring setup and the trapmaster is basically the same thing just different, what more do you need to know?

Just not as good.

Jim McCulloch (the original maker) is producing a great trap. It is so much stronger and better made then the Duke/china made ones. Jim showed me the two side by side. I could push down on the china ones and they would cave in...the ones Jim is now making are excellent traps. Tom

Jim showed me the two side by side. I could push down on the china ones and they would cave in...the ones Jim is now making are excellent traps. Interesting!

I personally got to look at the 2 versions of the trapmaster trap at the NTA in Lima and could find no difference in spring strength and or construction. Both versions I could easily pull back the spring with one finger....not good. Jim McCulloch has been told many times on what he needs to improve his trap....it keeps falling on deaf ears....too bad.

Back to work....

Gary

Gary I was talking about the steel frame. The quality of the materials used. I believe his new trap has plenty to hold coon. I won't use either right His or Yours, as both are two expensive for my taste. Tom

trapmasters work fine after you mod them caught 20 coons in them so far

Why buy a trap you have to spend money and time to mod just to make it "Just as good as a Griz".

12 dollars

Now, I have to add that I just ordered some more Griz, and hung the "test" trapmaster up the same year that I got it. It did hold two coon, both about 10 lbs. It also had 2 pull-outs. Never have seen the pull-outs with Griz Getrz, but also understand that this year it will take 4 more of my coon to justify the difference in price per trap. I guess it's all a personal taste. I still have 20 year old victor 1.5's that catch and hold coon, mink, rats, etc. and believe that there are places for each trap set on the line.

Why buy a $22-$25 for $2 coon?
To each their own. I would sure rather pay $12 for a trap and catch coon then pay the price of the grizz. I have no experience in either the trapmaster or the grizz though.
I personally believe the grizz is just all hype. Sure they hold coon but pretty much any 1.5 coil will.
I can understand having a few because I can see where they would come in handy in certain areas but the guys with several dozen..?
The reason why I believe the grizz is all hyped up is because the people that have many dozens give out the impression to others that "You can't catch coon unless you have the grizz." Well you can.
I laugh everytime I see people say "The grizz are coon catch machines." It doesn't take much to hold a coon, but not only that though "its not the trap, its the trapper."

i just wanted about a dozen to have incase i ever run into a place i would need them, but right now i dont have any money at all so it doesnt matter.

drewh how many coon you catch last season?

it cost less than 5 sence to mod a trapmaster so that means im saving 10$ per trap to spend on fish oil or anything else i need. my buddy bought 2 doz of these cause money is tight, and swears by the grizz. times are rough all over. if i want trap i need to be able to drive so i have to save money were i can

IT SUCK'S

Ya the price at the place I'm getting them at is going up to 18.95. I think that is still a pretty good price.

Makes sense.

Montour..
One, it was my first year of college, didn't have time. I will admit I am a newbie when it comes to trapping. Numbers don't mean jack anyways.
Spend your $22-25 on a trap. I will go the other route and buy 5 #1.5 coils for that price.
I don't feed into hype.
Sorry.

While I tend to agree with you, I think you are overlooking one thing. The Grizz is a specific trap for specific animal to specifically avoid dogs. Now the #1.5 on the other hand is indiscriminate and will catch whatever happens to trip the pan. SO, for those wanting a species specific trap, and want to avoid canine and other non-target catches, maybe there is some amount of truth to the hype. Don't know. But I bought a couple to find out.

Well in my last post I said that there are places for them. I am talking about the guys that pretty much only use them and use them everywhere, whether there are dogs or not.
These guys give off the impression that if its not caught in a grizz then the coon just isn't worth the same.. know what I mean?
Then they make post like man those grizz catch every coon around, the coon just flock to these things, etc.. As I said its not the trap, its the trapper.
I imagine that younger kids getting on here are going to think that the only way to catch a coon is to use a grizz, or that they have to spend that much money to "roll with the big dogs."
When their best odds would to be to invest that money in more traps then blowing most of it on one trap.
Enough said!

I think I can agree with you...for the most part.

The guys that knock Grizz are usally the ones who cannot afford them.

I think there's more to it than that. I can afford them, but want to try a couple first. May not make that big a difference in my area of trapping. We'll see.

You may think of it like that but the guys that don't use them maybe thinking about how big of an idiot you are for buying that expensive of a trap just to hold a coon.
You think you're the man because you can run $20+ traps or thats the way it seems to me.
Do buying grizz traps make you feel macho? Are you one of those types that feel they need to impress people with your expensive toys because you feel insecure? Maybe lacking somewhere.. if you know what I mean?

I have made my point and my opinion just because you don't like it doesn't mean you need to bash me. So don't try.

I run every style trap there is to catch coon as every location is different and requires different set ups.When you start catching more than one coon a season you will know what I am talking about.Back to your post above.
You may think of it like that but the guys that don't use them maybe thinking about how big of an idiot you are for buying that expensive of a trap just to hold a coon.

I guess if buying grizz makes me an idiot then so be it.The Grizz gets me into alot farmsteads that would never allow coils,conis,or snares due to pets.

You think you're the man because you can run $20+ traps or thats the way it seems to me.

I think I am the man that gets trap more places that otherwise would be off limits to trappers.

Do buying grizz traps make you feel macho? Are you one of those types that feel they need to impress people with your expensive toys because you feel insecure? Maybe lacking somewhere.. if you know what I mean?

The only one I am out to impress is myself.Why limit yourself to just certain kinds of traps because of price.I do not worry about price I know my investment will payoff overtime.As far as being insecure and lacking somehere you best take a look in the mirror.

I was just voicing my opinion on the grizz then you bash me about how many coon I caught last season. I have caught more than one coon in a season. You said LAST SEASON, as I said college got in the way and I trapped for about 2 days and found out it wasn't going to work out. I am man enough to say that I haven't caught loads of animals but I am just starting out.

Once again numbers don't mean anything there are to many variables that influence that. Number of traps, hours a day you can trap, amount of animals, etc..

I then repost again and you say that the people that don't run grizz traps can't afford them? Sounds pretty egotistical to me. Which made me come to the conclusion that you maybe insecure.

Nope I don't need to look in the mirror I already know I am not insecure or lacking anywhere because I don't bash the people that can't afford expensive traps, or feel the need to talk numbers. Even if I did catch a thousand coon a season I still wouldn't gloat.

You are the one bashing the grizz price.You are talking in circles.You need to keep your mouth shut and your ears open and you might learn something.

Public forum.. I am allowed voicing my opinions on a trap. When you "talk" you disregard the people that may not be able to pay the price of the grizz and that sickens me.

So Montour when did you become spokesperson for the grizz?

Yeah I am talking in circles.. around you and I could all night!
BUT.. I am not going to because I know just the kind of person you are and you're not worth the energy I put into typing these posts.
BTW your display picture suits you well. I applaud you on your pick!

I am out.

Good call one coon wonder.Past your bed time?

Deep breaths fellas...


The Grizz catches coon, just like alot of other traps....each have their own place.

i have got 40 coons in the trapmasters so far that's all i use are dog proof traps. the trapmaster trap is as close as my bugdet will let me get to a grizz. the dp traps are great i get all kinds of farms cause i can't catch there dog this great nitch to get into as a trapper. i wish i could get some little grizz getters there great no bull set them catch a coon. trapmasters have to be moded to hold the coon so not so great after there moded there great have not had a pull out sense so now there great

here's one coon that i caught

good time spent no matter what dp you you use

Good one, there "short one".
I would rather be the one coon wonder than the one inch wonder anyday. I am talking about what I was talking about earlier, if you know what I am saying again.. *Wink* *Wink*
Yeah I will probably go to bed. Your foolishness has wore me out.
BlueRidgeTrapper you have incredible powers to be one of the first ones to post when people are arguing.lol
Do you have a sixth sense for these kind of things?

Great picture coonergreen, that is what it is all about! Sharing it with others.

Never noticed that...I reckon I might be blessed with some kinda extra sensory perceptor kinda thingy for hearing people arguing a mile away???

“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.” Robert Heinlein

Never used the trapmasters. Handled one and didn't care for the poor quality. I have a pile of grizz that I LOVE! I don't have the time to spend tinkering with traps to get them ready to maybe hold a coon. I'd rather pay the price for quality.

I've trapped coon for 30 years. Only been using the grizz for 2 years. Has totally changed my way of trapping! Best thing on the market since they come out with sliced bread!

coonergreen, sounds like you have made a worthwhile coon catching trap for yourself. As long as your happy....that's all that matters.

drewh, ease up Bud. There's a LOT more to it than you understand.

montoor cooner, keep on keepin' on!

Blue Ridge Twapper......your a MORON!

Well Eric looks like you pretty much covered all the bases.

Go eat a burro burrito with chocolate sauce!

The Griz is a PET PROOF coon trap and that's where it really shines.

This thread was started to question the quality of TM's vs Griz, and suddenly it's down to bickering like a bunch of 3rd graders. Answer the guy's question with your opinion and let it go, would ya? Here's my thoughts on it, handle both and you'll notice the griz is better built, however, if the cheaper buy in of TM's suits you better, get them, any mods you may need to make yourself are basically free, we're all on a different budget here. Also, yes dog-proofs get you into alot of places off-limits to regular legholds, that's their selling point. However, if you're also using them where you wouldn't need to, you're passing up all the gray fox that are working you're coon sets.(Dog proof is Fox proof, pretty much) Now quit arguing about it, would ya'? Stand together or fall apart.

thanks dtpa, very good point with saying about the foxes being missed.

there are no pet proof traps, no dog proof trap is pet proof they will catch cats i

Every trap has its place. when using dp traps exclusivly, Your also missing the mink and rats! gotta mix it up.

cooner, keyword...DOG PROOF.

just saying cause not every body has used dp traps and they think they ony catch coons they catch alot of differnt animals

Catching coons in Trapmasters with no mods...No problem!..

Feral cats are easily caught in them..