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#1539167 - 10/14/09 10:26 AM Animals not released at catch site
Kurt in Va Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 7
Loc: Virginia
Hi, new on forum, have taken and passed Virginia test and looking at starting part time business. Would you please PM me on your procedures with animals that you can not release on site. Trying to keep the question G rated.

thanks
Kurt

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#1540054 - 10/14/09 07:45 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Kurt in Va]
Jim Bethell Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 397
Loc: Woodhull, Illinois 67
Every state laws are different. You need info from people in your state. What I am allowed to do is different form what you are allowed to do.

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#1540370 - 10/14/09 10:41 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Jim Bethell]
45/70 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3841
Loc: Georgia
You got that right!
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#1541043 - 10/15/09 11:54 AM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: 45/70]
Barkstone Offline

trapper

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1576
Loc: St Louis, Missouri
I do not release any animal onsite or anywhere else for that matter! No state that I know of requires that and cannot imagine why anyone would want to.
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#1541344 - 10/15/09 03:22 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Barkstone]
Kurt in Va Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 7
Loc: Virginia
I understand your response, the first of five responses to a wildlife call under a permit in Virginia states the following:
Authorized to capture and remove wildlife from the interior of building or dwelling for release upon the curtilage of such building or dwelling at consent of landowner or tenant.

Curtilage is defined as the grounds and areas immediately adjacent to such buildings and dwellings and routinely used by occupants.
Meet a lady in a feed store who was buying a new trap, coons were on her front porch and tearing up her flower beds, she was releasing them on her five acres, but of course they came back. she was now releasing them on a 200 acre farm with owners ok.
So I, ask the question based on the above.

Kurt

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#1541431 - 10/15/09 04:05 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Kurt in Va]
IAFFtrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 458
Loc: Bedford Co. Va
Only animal in the Commonwealth that can be "relocated" even with written permission is the common grey squirrel. Everything else has to be euthanized.
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#1541516 - 10/15/09 04:47 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Kurt in Va]
Barkstone Offline

trapper

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1576
Loc: St Louis, Missouri
I still doubt that is your only recourse. I would contact someone locally, buy them lunch and ask some questions.

All research supports putting the animals down and not relocating them... But, if that does not pan out you could always try dentistry...
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#1541523 - 10/15/09 04:53 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Barkstone]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14711
Loc: Central Ohio
Barkstone, I feel so much better seeing your post now and then! smile

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#1541590 - 10/15/09 05:31 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Kurt in Va]
LAtrapper Online   content

"Professor"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2260
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
Kurt in Va-
A three year ADVANCED SEARCH for euthanasia on the ADC Forum will bring up 88+ results. Among them are-
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/214759/Euthanasia_Chambers.html#Post214759
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/370435/Skunks_in_a_cage.html#Post370435
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...html#Post663708
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...html#Post783689

According to http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/forms/PERM/PERM-nuisance.pdf Par 7) b)
Dispatch: Captured wildlife that are not released as specified in section seven (7) part (a) above or transported for rehabilitation as specified in section seven (7) part (c) below, must be respectfully dispatched, within 48-hours if captured alive and temporarily possessed, by using a method of euthanasia outlined in Appendix A of the Virginia Cooperative Extension publication 456-232 “Vertebrate Pest Control: A Guide For Wildlife Managers in Virginia". Respectfully dispatched is defined as humanely putting the animal to death without public spectacle. Permittees are not authorized to euthanize domestic companion animals, which include feral cats and dogs.

Do you have a copy of the referenced publication?
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#1541622 - 10/15/09 05:48 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: IAFFtrapper]
Kurt in Va Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 7
Loc: Virginia
My first question was based on the first of five choices that are listed. # 2 is relocation of injured, sick ,or orphaned animals to licensed rehab center. # 3, 4, 5 are rules for despatch.

The gray squirrel is the only one that can be relocated from the catch site, (I was asking about the catch site release.)
Look I'm a newbie just trying to ask and learn, I realize now I should have added the info on #2,3,4,and 5. It made my question confusing. I will just read posts for now.
Thanks
Kurt

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#1541717 - 10/15/09 06:36 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Kurt in Va]
LAtrapper Online   content

"Professor"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2260
Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)
Sorry! I guess that I didn't, and still don’t understand exactly what the question is. Laws and regulations vary from state to state. I have found it to be an excellent idea to work closely with my local “game wardens”. They are the folks that write the tickets. If I don’t agree with their interpretation of the law or regulation, I can always go up the chain of command. However, a good working relationship with the local guys lets them know that you are trying to stay legal.

6) WILDLIFE CONFLICT MANAGEMENT METHODS AND CONDITIONS:
Methods: Wildlife control measures may include capturing, live trapping, kill trapping, shooting, or killing using legal capture, trapping, and shooting methods recommended in the Nebraska Cooperative Extension publication “Prevention and Control of Wildlife Damage”, or the Virginia Cooperative Extension publication 456-232 “Vertebrate Pest Control: A Guide For Wildlife Managers in Virginia.

Do you have these publications? “Prevention and Control of Wildlife Damage” is available online at http://icwdm.org/handbook/index.asp .

The ADVANCED SEARCH feature is a very important part of this forum too. It will allow you to get various opinions on just about any question that you may have; almost immediately. If you need any help using it- please PM me.

Ask questions, conduct independent research,the answers are available.
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#1541942 - 10/15/09 08:19 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: LAtrapper]
Kurt in Va Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 7
Loc: Virginia
Yes, Ron I have the books, they were needed to pass the test.
Thanks for the search suggestions I will use it. From the answers I got, I confused most people.
The answers given tell me that you do not release at catch site even if requested by customer and ok by permit rules.
Will have to take the tractor out back and dig a big hole.

Thanks to all that answered, The question has been answered.

Kurt

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#1543706 - 10/16/09 10:34 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Kurt in Va]
traprjohn Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1813
Loc: NC
I'm pretty sure it is against federal law to re-locate the 3 main rabies vectors---coon,skunk,fox
In NC we can relocate ONLY on the same land it was caught on--which usually means it will return to become a nuisance again
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#1545077 - 10/18/09 01:25 AM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: traprjohn]
stan58 Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/22/07
Posts: 279
Loc: Maine, USA
Maine allows for relocation no more than 8 miles from the catch site at the trappers discresion, I will add any state owned property is ok for release
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#1545633 - 10/18/09 03:25 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: stan58]
Paul Winkelmann Offline
trapper

Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1090
Loc: mequon, wisconsin
As far as I know there is no federal law on what you can and can't relocate. That's all state controlled. We can relocate anything, anywhere, with permission. ( Okay, maybe not sex offenders)

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#1554861 - 10/23/09 11:41 PM Re: Animals not released at catch site [Re: Paul Winkelmann]
traprjohn Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1813
Loc: NC
thanx Paul, my mistake
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