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#1476855 - 08/29/09 11:15 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: Vinke]
william Offline
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Registered: 11/05/08
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hey vinke could you post a pic of the 2x2 660 site?

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#1505269 - 09/21/09 01:07 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: LT GREY]
LT GREY Offline
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Vinke, where's our picture of the 660 in action?

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#1506653 - 09/22/09 12:16 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: Paul Dobbins]
beavernator Offline
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Originally Posted By: Paul Dobbins
I haven't been here in awhile, but found this post as one I can relate to.

Over the past 17 years of trapping beavers full time, I've encountered the occasional "experienced" beaver. They can be a formidable challenge.

Here are a few things I've learned....

A beaver doesn't have to experience the smack of a body grip trap to know it poses a danger. I've encountered pairs of beavers that have never known a trapper's tools. In this situation I've sometimes caught a single beaver in a body grip when I had multiple sets in that colony area. The other beaver would not come near a body grip trap. This second beaver had never been subjected to the whack of a body grip, yet it knew the danger it posed. I'm sure the second beaver was in the immediate vicinity when the first beaver was caught in the body grip. It saw its mate in distress and also was aware of the body grip that had its mate in a death grip.

As was mentioned earlier, beavers will sometimes also ignore snares. I don't believe these beavers know anything about a snare, but rather, are fearfull of anything new added to its environment, such as a pole driven in as a snare support. These beavers will go around anything new added to their environment, whether it was introduced by man or nature. After a time of seeing it there, it will become accustomed to it, but it may be months. I've heard of people who left a body grip in the same place for months, and eventually the educated beaver will go through it. I think that it eventually saw the trap as a natural part of its environment and was no longer fearful of it.

One of the tricks I use on a lone smart beaver is to first drain its pond. Then I will drag a log over the main channel, if there's not one there already. With the pond drained, I'd set up a snare so that it will eventually hang in the choked down channel, however the snare isn't set. The beaver will go about repairing the dam and when the pond level is right where the beaver is still going under the log, I'll merely postion the snare that was there all along, but not set. I've caught many a smart beaver with this technique.


You've been trapping a lot longer than I have (since Jan.) and have taken waaaaay more than I have (51) but I can say from first-hand experience that you are 100% correct in your assumption. I have actually witnessed this with my own eyes.

I was trapping a spot for a farmer where there was a huge dam all the way across this creek bottom. This dam in total was about 80 yards long and close to 6' tall. The only place I really had accessible to make aset at the dam was in each corner. On the far corner there was a gum tree that the beaver themselves had fallen. They had chewed it nearly in-two, then let it fall over. It was about 10" in diameter where they made the bite. As it turned out the tree was fallen, but still attached at the bite, which was nearly level with the water. I made a pretty good break in the dam and drained about 10" of water in 30 min so that the bottomof this log was right on top of the water. I sticked off an opening behind this log and hung the 330 in the opening. The next morning as I approached the dam from the far corner, I heard and saw lots of splashing at the setup at the other end of the dam. I could see water splashing around in front of this log, so I figured that a beaver had just hit the trap and was struggling. After observing for a few minutes, I actually saw a beaver start to swim back & forwarth up & down the edge of the water. I thought it had slipped my trap, or knew what it was and would not go through. This went on for about 10 minutes. Patiently, I sat and watched this beaver spalshing and making noise all around in the water in front of the trap. Then, the noise stopped. 10 seconds later a beaver popped up in the water about 10 yards in front of me. As I was already in the "ready" position with the Beavernator 2000 (12ga. with 6 shots of 00 buck) one big bark from the beaver cannon and she was finished. I thought I had one beaver. As it turned out. There was actually another beaver caugt and already drowned inthe trap. The trapped beaver was alreay stiff, so I know it had been there for a few hours. However, it is at this point that I realized that the beaver I had just "beavernated" was the one making all the comotion for the past 10 minutes. Her mate was caught in the trap and she must have been there for the previous couple of hours trying to get him to come on home. She didn't want to leave the trapped beaver and was not about to go around or over the log to repair the dam. This beaver relaized something was wrong and I am sure that there was some sort of traumatization taking place. No doubt in my mind that this beaver would not have fallen for this setup had I not already shot her, reset the trap and left it there for her the following night. This beaver was no doubt affected by seeing her mate gagged. Good thing I always take the Beavernator 2000 for oppurtinistic shots. i know some guys on here don't like shooting beaver in water, but the guys paing taxes on the property like dead beaver and don't give a flip how it's accomplished as long as it's legal.

What you say isn't just a theory-it's the truth about beavers. I've seen it with my own eyes.


Edited by beavernator (09/22/09 12:19 PM)

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#1506702 - 09/22/09 12:44 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: beavernator]
LT GREY Offline
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Nice add on to this post.
Thanks Paul and beavernator!

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#1524426 - 10/04/09 08:01 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: LT GREY]
bad karma Offline
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Loc: Eastern Shore of Maryland
good tips on here. Sac oil and footholds have saved me more than once.
good tip about hot weather beavers not traveling too. I have heard Kirk De. say it as well. Very true.
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#1526497 - 10/06/09 10:08 AM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: bad karma]
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Summer Beaver trapping ended today........,,,,, BUR
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#1526901 - 10/06/09 03:28 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: Vinke]
beavernator Offline
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Registered: 05/22/09
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Loc: NC
we're just getting "warmed" up around here-not the weather I mean the beavernating...


Edited by beavernator (10/06/09 03:28 PM)

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#1533604 - 10/10/09 08:51 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: beavernator]
Vinke Offline
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HA!........... smile I was just telling LT G and Kirk D.....That this little guy was giving me some grief! ~
(***notice the Iron in the water***)

Got em in a natural blind set 3/4 mile up stream from the "problem area".... at the end of the drainage......(you can run but you can not hide)....

And yes Kirk,,,,I did the Highlander Thing,,,,,,,,, There can only be One.....

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#1574377 - 11/03/09 02:42 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: LT GREY]
LT GREY Offline
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Loc: Central Ohio
Nice work Vinke! Love the beaver buggie!
Who's 660 kill traps are those?

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#1575577 - 11/03/09 10:17 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: LT GREY]
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Sure beets walking...lol.... Started a New job today...
Step one was to cut trails to the swamps...Making access for myself and the developers that own the property...
Managed to get a 4 good sets in before dark...
Tomorrow is BTTW.......

These Marsh rats boats are AWESOME....Stable, Durable and Light

Here I an using it a a trailer........
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#1576388 - 11/04/09 01:36 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: Vinke]
LT GREY Offline
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Loc: Central Ohio
What is the weight limitations of that marsh boat , Dave?


Would it hold 600 lbs?

Not that I weight that....but with gear, and some trapped beaver, I could! smile

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#1581559 - 11/07/09 08:30 AM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: LT GREY]
LT GREY Offline
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Loc: Central Ohio
How is your "swamp' trapping going?

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#1590390 - 11/11/09 08:05 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: LT GREY]
Vinke Offline
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Loc: Pacific Northwest WA
Quote:

How is your "swamp' trapping going?



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#1591430 - 11/12/09 12:14 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: Vinke]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
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Loc: Central Ohio
Nice haul Dave!

All in kill traps?

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#1591606 - 11/12/09 02:51 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: LT GREY]
Vinke Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: Pacific Northwest WA
yes all in body grips.......Set 36 trap.

My best one day haul from a single location.
I think I got them all smile
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#1592544 - 11/12/09 09:56 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: Vinke]
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Nice pile of beavers Mr. Vinke.

After my annual two month break (aug and sept), I started back beaverin last month for Weyerhaueser here in NC. Most of the ditches and creeks are about dried out. I did manage to find six colonies of beavers, but it took me about 4,000 miles of road to find them.

Fortunately, we've had some heavy rains the past couple of days and I'm hopeful that the beavers will again be on the move. I've contracted with this company for the past 18 years and have felt fairly secure in my job until I came back from my two month break and found very few beavers.

As for the educated beavers, I saw where apples were used to lure the beavers to a location. I've also used sweet potatoes with the orange flesh revealed. That seems to get some to come investigate also.

Something I learned from my pa long ago. If ya pay attention to the animal, it will teach you how to catch it.
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#1593285 - 11/13/09 12:13 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: Paul Dobbins]
Vinke Offline
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4000 miles is a long trek....and that is the downfall that comes with being a good beaver trapper..... No beaver

I will add that many of the beaver in the picture were "lured" into the blind set using Beaver Plus....
One of the mistakes that I have made using it, would be putting it {the lure) too close to the dive (say on a tree next to it), if there is enough water for the beaver to circle the trap...."looking" with his nose, to find the scent.
It would be differnt if snares were legal under special permit
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#1601172 - 11/17/09 08:06 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: Vinke]
Vinke Offline
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Loc: Pacific Northwest WA
Duh...........


had a stabilized trap that I make inside a lONG CULVERT.......
In a hurry and did not replace the wire...


These little guys sure can put a hurt to the beaver trapping



My first nose catch.......
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#1601283 - 11/17/09 08:25 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: TheRAT]
william Offline
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Registered: 11/05/08
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Loc: ms
ANYONE HAVE ANY GOOD TIPS ON CATCHING TRAP SHY BEAVER IN A POND IN CITY LIMITS ?

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#1602450 - 11/18/09 03:00 PM Re: Beaver: "Trials and tribulations" [Re: william]
Paul Winkelmann Offline
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Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1090
Loc: mequon, wisconsin
William,a restraining cable. (snare)

Vinke, looks like you put a world of hurt on the little guy.

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