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Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! #1381514
06/15/09 01:23 AM
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M. Howard Offline OP
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On the line with Andy and Rob this year presented an opportunity of a life time to test and try different things. Three trappers who use different luring techniques trapping the same line, the same ground, most of the time less than twenty feet away from one another, what better testing ground could one ask for. I have read and listen to many accounts on the art of luring and lure application, but all these accounts seem to always be one person’s personal technique based on what they use or apply. So for me the opportunity to see how different techniques worked in such close proximity to another trapper was a gold mine of useable knowledge.

Now what worked and did not work is as varied as the lures used, but the one thing that always seems to make the biggest difference was location. No matter how much or how little lure, how loud or soft, you still can’t pull animals as far as many may think. Location and being right on it is the most important. Are there miracle lures, lures that work better than others? With out a doubt there are some lures that seem to work better, but would they pull animals any further than other lures? No, they would not pull them further, but rather make the animal work the set harder. Again, it is right back at location.

The one thing that did seem to pull animals further than any other trick was a good attractor. Weather the attractor was a hole, a bone or maybe a feather. Attractors seem to draw the animals to the set where the lure then did its job. But even with an attractor, you have to be within the animal’s line of site to get action at the set.

Learning location is not hard, but most of the time over thought, where there are tracks, that is your location. Then finding where to set a trap is up to each person. I use to look for the perfect place to set my trap, but soon learned that there is no perfect place, one place is as good as the other. Spend less time looking and more time setting. Just try to get as close to the tracks as possible, use a smart attractor and good lure. Don’t try to over think the sets.


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: M. Howard] #1381516
06/15/09 01:29 AM
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Interesting?

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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: M. Howard] #1381594
06/15/09 08:36 AM
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Mr Howard.......

what is the question smile

I will write something this evenin

Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: M. Howard] #1382034
06/15/09 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: M. Howard
There is no question Keith, I just figured if I put your name in the title it would get lots of looks. I learned that listening to the Editor of the Fur Taker mag.



Huh ??? You lost me there............

Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: M. Howard] #1382046
06/15/09 05:42 PM
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Oh yea.......gotta fix that thingy, thanks !

Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Buzzard] #1382068
06/15/09 05:53 PM
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M. Howard Offline OP
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Now that really looks cool. North Central North Carolina. I just thought all points were North in North Carolina.


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: M. Howard] #1382070
06/15/09 05:54 PM
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I dont live near any town.........lol

Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: M. Howard] #1382773
06/16/09 12:31 AM
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Good info M. Howard. Where the critters passed thru one time they will usually pass thru there again....tracks confirm the location.


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #1383040
06/16/09 10:43 AM
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Thanks for sharing. M.Howard location,location,location, then good lure, and a attractor to boot.



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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: RainKing] #1383070
06/16/09 11:12 AM
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howard,
i've been saying that for years....

most people overthink things...


did you ever wonder why the kids type cereal is always on the bottom shelf of the store????

location is the key....


location, location, location......


good stuff


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: k. miller] #1383102
06/16/09 11:43 AM
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Once on location the perfect spot "should" be picked if you live on my side of the state......Or it REMAKE
Rain can wipe out a location in short time here....and sometime does not stop....
.... once on location couture and soil conditions need to be looked out...
Often set have to be "slightly" off location or in the ceder trees to remain working...


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Vinke] #1383362
06/16/09 04:40 PM
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M. Howard Offline OP
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Vinke, I don't have the rain you have that is for sure. I just find a spot tha want get run over by a auto.

Last edited by M. Howard; 06/16/09 04:41 PM.

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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Blackdog] #1383505
06/16/09 06:58 PM
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Mr. Howard, have you ever trapped in snow? Try it some day and then tell me your thoughts.


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Fire Fly Guy] #1383532
06/16/09 07:31 PM
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This post was to make the point that lure, lure and more lure is still not the key, but rather location. Find location and then a good quality lure will do its job. This is something that I feel can not be taught enough and the only point being made by using Rob and Andy's names was to the fact that they are both experienced trappers with good equipment, knowledge and ability and it still came right back to location. As far as holding water, get a 5 gallon bucket with out holes in it and it will hold water, but the gold mine of knowledge will still be the same, location is the key. Keep looking, I am sure you will catch me on something one of these days, but not today.

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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: M. Howard] #1383555
06/16/09 07:52 PM
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tony, there are quite a few differences in many lures on the market, and lure placement is a very big factor that alot of people ignore.

you are dead on about location. and yep yall are right about alot of folks including me over think things, but thats what helps figure little things out, over thinking and reading between the lines.

text sent to ya tony....


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: j lord] #1383568
06/16/09 07:58 PM
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Go trap some fox in the summer and get back to me about that over thinking stuff, lol.


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Jtrapper] #1383583
06/16/09 08:18 PM
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Tony,
I totally agree with you....even if few others do. You and I trap the same weather conditions and terrain type based on what I've read and saw in your posts/photos on here.

I have said for years that just about any "lure" will work for predators if you are on location. Over-thinking things just slows me down and I would rather have 100 coyote sets on location with a so-so lure than 200 off location with the "best" lure made!!!


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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #1383612
06/16/09 08:43 PM
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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Buzzard] #1383632
06/16/09 08:54 PM
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Re: Lure thoughts for Buzzard!!!!!!!! [Re: Buzzard] #1383633
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Hey Buzz, Your Grey Fox in the 1st pic, kinda looks like a possum? Have you been counting them as Grey fox all these years!

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