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#1158502 - 01/29/09 02:17 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: LT GREY]
bowhunter93 Offline
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Registered: 01/02/09
Posts: 509
Loc: west virginia
they stick out from the surroundings or they can smell
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#1159736 - 01/30/09 06:20 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: bowhunter93]
Newt Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 2140
Loc: Port Republic South Jersey
Scent on the snare??????????
I dont think that would be a factor. What about the Scent Pool that you leave at the set, while making it?????

I tell my students to practice,practice,practice making sets,BEFORE season or off the line.SO you can get in and get out FAST.
Kind'a like the rule that Gun fighters use. "Take your time and aim ,BUT DO IT FAST
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#1160394 - 01/30/09 12:39 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: Newt]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14684
Loc: Central Ohio
Great advice from an even greater snareman.
Thanks Newt! smile

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#1160500 - 01/30/09 01:41 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: LT GREY]
Crutch Offline
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Registered: 10/21/08
Posts: 217
Loc: minnesota
I am a disabled trapper, paralized from the waist down I need a crutch to walk with. And I use snares all the time, When setting I need to sit right on the ground to make my set, since I can not balance well enough to set the snare while standing. The scent has not been a problem for me. I have caught every animal that we have in Minnesota snaring this way except a lynx, I have even caught Timber Wolves ( more then one ) in fox snares by the foot this way. I have found using snares that I do not need to worry about my scent as much as with traps. Even in the snow I sit down and do not brush out the marks I make in the snow and still catch plenty of critters. Even this large of a scent pool seems to disapate rather fast for I have caught many animals the first night out, even coyotes. Crutch
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#1160659 - 01/30/09 02:39 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: Crutch]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14684
Loc: Central Ohio
I am inspired by that story! Proud to know ya' Crutch! smile

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#1160772 - 01/30/09 03:26 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: LT GREY]
Denny Emery Online   confused
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Registered: 12/09/07
Posts: 7037
Loc: Pa
Originally Posted By: LT GREY
I am inspired by that story! Proud to know ya' Crutch! smile

I have to agree!!
Thanks for the insight and encouragement!!!
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#1168961 - 02/03/09 10:57 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: LT GREY]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14684
Loc: Central Ohio
Been wanting to add to this post but been really feeling under the weather for about a week or more. We are currently at about 20 degrees here with a heavy ice,(melt and refreeze) and snow cover... the kind you put your full weight on before it breaks through...(hard to sneak up on anything too)! smile

Spent yesterday pulling the last of my coyote snares on the fur line. Had one coyote in a 1x19-1/16th on a Slim lock, and not too bad of one for a February coyote either. He was choked up pretty good with dozens of fresh coyote tracks around him in the new snow...of course my fault, as I had pulled all but two snares in that area.

I'm starting to like that 1x19-1/16th with a Slim lock, more and more. It does blend in so much better than the heavier cable and locks I had used in the past. Anyone else using that same set-up for 'yotes? Just curious.

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#1170405 - 02/03/09 10:34 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: LT GREY]
gary1967 Offline
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Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 219
Loc: Marquette. Michigan
All my yote snares are boiled and aired out, all my trail cam pics showed that out of 100 yotes , only 9 were out running in day light hours, so I dont bother with dye or chalk. I also like to drag a bloody rabbit down the trail too. This type of snaring I like to use late season when we have about 40 inches of snow. works great !

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#1170569 - 02/04/09 05:27 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: gary1967]
Newt Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 2140
Loc: Port Republic South Jersey
"I'm starting to like that 1x19-1/16th with a Slim lock"

Well how about that ! :-) :-) :-)
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#1170572 - 02/04/09 05:29 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: Newt]
Denny Emery Online   confused
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Registered: 12/09/07
Posts: 7037
Loc: Pa
LOL
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#1170650 - 02/04/09 06:55 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: Denny Emery]
tjds Offline
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Registered: 08/05/08
Posts: 82
Loc: Dudley Minn
When you boil your snares.What do you do with the soda??
I get water boiling then put snares in and then dump soda in slowly. I boil them for a few minutes.. Is this correct??
How do you do it??

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#1170703 - 02/04/09 07:55 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: Newt]
Hey PORTER Offline
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Registered: 08/13/07
Posts: 503
Loc: WEST VIRGINIA
Originally Posted By: Newt
Scent on the snare??????????
I dont think that would be a factor. What about the Scent Pool that you leave at the set, while making it?????

I tell my students to practice,practice,practice making sets,BEFORE season or off the line.SO you can get in and get out FAST.
Kind'a like the rule that Gun fighters use. "Take your time and aim ,BUT DO IT FAST


If you haven't seen Newt give a demo...do so. You'll smack yourself in the forehead and say..."shoulda hada V8".

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#1170807 - 02/04/09 09:13 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: Hey PORTER]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14684
Loc: Central Ohio
Newt, I got the 1x19 1/16th Slim lock idea from you!
Hahahahahaha! smile

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#1170808 - 02/04/09 09:13 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: Hey PORTER]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14684
Loc: Central Ohio
Dang Newt, I got the 1x19 1/16th Slim lock idea from you!
Hahahahahaha! smile

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#1171613 - 02/04/09 05:26 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: LT GREY]
tbn Offline
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Registered: 12/29/06
Posts: 1500
Loc: kansas
You don't have problems with twisting or chew outs with that size? I have never went below 3/32's. Just curious.

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#1172302 - 02/04/09 09:01 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: tbn]
tjds Offline
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Registered: 08/05/08
Posts: 82
Loc: Dudley Minn
Well I asked on the early post how you all boil your traps.. The boys and I put out 14 snares with little or no response.But one boy brings in a nice weasel from one of his box traps.. I did scouting a couple of weeks ago and located tracks a scat and set my snares accordinly. No luck yet..tomarrow 32 degees.
I don't know if I boiled them right..
On some other land.
Before snow I got two coyotes and a boar coon..Three weeks past and nothing.. Had a pair of tracks visit regulary,but no catches.. Brought in two road kill deer but no taste test from the yotes but some crows.. Snow got too deep and closed the snares.. Went back two weeks after close up no sign.. I put to conclusion that when i checked my sets I checked them too often and used a same path every time too close to the snares..They even [Please excuse my language... I'm an idiot] on a snare..Some came to a foot to six feet from my snares.. Made pathes for them in the deep snow but that didn't work..Next time I'll make them so I can walk in and see them all at a glance .Tom

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#1173152 - 02/05/09 10:32 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: tjds]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14684
Loc: Central Ohio
Well it is pretty common for coyotes to spot a dark snare against a white background...add to that a bunch of human tracks going up to the snare over and over and turing around... and you will see a number of fox and coyotes STALL OUT!... especially when very little blocking is used...and even that can be over done.

Then again...you get trappers like those ol' boys up in Canada,( Braham's Trapping, I think it's sold under) who never boil, paint, dye or camo a snare..just use it shiney, just like they made it, shiney camo locks, cable ferrels and all...absolutely no hiding it! and still they catch coyotes up there in all that snow by baiting them in...Someone like me who makes setting coyote snares an art form practically, just looks at that and thinks Un*%#@believable! smirk

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#1174292 - 02/05/09 07:49 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: LT GREY]
Newt Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 2140
Loc: Port Republic South Jersey
If I'm not ADC Trap'n/Snare'n
Just fur trap'n/snare'n. I'll pick up my snares ,go down the road and set up on a new bunch of coyotes.Then catch the dumb ones there too.When they'r cought up,I'll move on again.
I have found that 10 dumb coyotes are worth 10 times as much one smart one.
You guys stay where the smart one is. I'll take the 10 dumb ones.:-)
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#1174719 - 02/05/09 10:06 PM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: Newt]
tjds Offline
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Registered: 08/05/08
Posts: 82
Loc: Dudley Minn
I believe that when I got my two this winter was a little or no snow.. This grove was thick and had a lot of rabbits. I noticed now that that how I got them was they were running hard for those hares. But when deep snow came I think they were a lot smarter..
I thought I had only one in the grove by his tracks,but I noticed the tracks coming in, the second yote followed the exact same tracks!!

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#1174864 - 02/06/09 01:01 AM Re: Reasons why coyotes avoid snares! [Re: tjds]
Cutter Offline
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Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 141
Loc: Western Oregon- 30
Lt,

I'm using that setup some. Here's one I caught the other day. 1/16 1x19, slim lock, 75# kill spring from O'Gorman. Coyote is snared by neck and alive. He's not tangled up too bad, but the spring was compressed quite a bit.

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