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Pelt Sewing Question #1096642
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For those on here that sew up your pelts, do you sew after or before fleshing ? Also would dental floss be a good selection for thread material ? I never did it but am thinking I should sew up two hides that have big holes in them. Thanks in advance.

Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: Bucndoe] #1096648
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I sew mine up after fleshing and haven't had any problems using dental floss for thread.

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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: bob56] #1096657
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I clean skin so haven't had to deal with fleshing. I use dental floss and it has often returned from the tannery with the floss in place!

If a hole has material around it that needs to be fleshed off I would clean that up with an X-acto type tool and sew the hole closed. It seems to me that the fleshing process might tend to make the hole only bigger if it isn't stitched shut first, IMHO.

I would take precautions in the fleshing process to avoid the stitching too.

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i always sew up after fleshing just carfull around holes

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If it is going to the auction, sew it up.
Loops and not too tight , with the fur on the outside of the closing. If you can pass your hand over it after and not feal the bundle you have done it right, Before the hide dries brush the hair so it is smooth and in-place, and you may get it by the graders detection.

Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: Ol' Blister] #1096674
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Flesh first, it's much easier to do, and you get the edges clean which will make a nice tidy sew line.

If you have a wierd shaped hole, try to make it oblong with the lay of the fur, it will sew up more natural this way than trying to match edges from oddball shape. Keep all of the fur on the fur side as well. Always be at least an eighth of an inch from the edge to keep the stitch from coming loose out of the leather.

Dental floss is a good material if you not going to have your pelts returned, some times it will come undone as well as just break apart in the tanning process's.

I've gone to using uphostlery thread, much stronger, a whole cone will last for ever. It's small and light weight like floss is to.


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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: GritGuy] #1096913
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The advantage to dental floss is that it has wax on it that will keep your stitches tight. I tried taxidermy thread also, but it is hard to keep it tight and it was black and would show more easily. You cannot beat dental floss.

If you have a big hole, be sure to take small stitches and after it dries, you will not be able to tell there was a hole. I have sewed up some real badly shot-up coyotes over the years with good results.

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I used dental floss for years on furbearer, bears, goat capes ect.. works great but I have since when to a wax thread that is designed for hand fur sewing of clothing. It seems to hold a knot alot better and is tan in color and really hides the repair.


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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: sbhooper] #1097112
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Yea you can beat dental floss LOL I have for years using the other I mentioned. Buy a nuetral color upholestry thread once and never buy anything else again.

One other thing one can do so the stitches don't unravel is to throw in a cross stich or half hitch once in a while. Another thing is not to have your stitches more than a 1/4 inch close to each other, to close and all the work will just pull out when the pelt dries.

Dental floss is just a poor mans way of getting by and it's way easier to get at some store is all. I never use it any more, I've sewed up stuff that would make professional seamsters run and hide LOL nothing comes loose any more. All my fur goes to professional tannerys as well, some of them are not so easy on holes, you pay for the tanning regardless of what happens to the pelt.


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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: GritGuy] #1097361
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I always flesh first. Then tighten on a board, not too tight and then sew. Use a 3 cornered glover's needle. For thread any heavy linen thread or dental floss. I have a couple large thread spools of heavy linen thread which have lasted for years and years. They are so old they are even the wooden spools.

Notice my old spool of thread in the background.




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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: trapper ron] #1097378
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I flesh all mine first. I use flesh color thread, and a surgeon's needle and 2 pair of surgical forceps. keep your stitches tight (i put 40 stitches per inch) and make sure you pull the hair back through while you are sewing up your hole.


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what type of needle can be used that is readily available?


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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: mallard_drake85] #1097814
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Originally Posted By: mallard_drake85
I flesh all mine first. I use flesh color thread, and a surgeon's needle and 2 pair of surgical forceps. keep your stitches tight (i put 40 stitches per inch) and make sure you pull the hair back through while you are sewing up your hole.


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40 stitches an inch? good god..... are you a plastic surgeon?

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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: psc203] #1097998
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Originally Posted By: mallard_drake85
I flesh all mine first. I use flesh color thread, and a surgeon's needle and 2 pair of surgical forceps. keep your stitches tight (i put 40 stitches per inch) and make sure you pull the hair back through while you are sewing up your hole.


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40 stitches an inch? good god..... are you a plastic surgeon?


LMAO, no no, not a plastic surgeon, but i do take meticulous pride in my work, and a few of the old timer buyers i've sold to couldnt find my stitches even after i told them where they were. it pays to put forth the extra time and effort for quality results. and besides, i wont get to see my buddies again until college resumes, so it gives me something to do! lol


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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: mallard_drake85] #1098183
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Go to a vet supply store or to a vet and get a needle from them. It should have three sides on it and is sharp. As in it will cut you. They come in all differnt sizes and shapes. I like a S shaped needle myself.


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Go to a vet supply store or to a vet and get a needle from them. It should have three sides on it and is sharp. As in it will cut you. They come in all differnt sizes and shapes. I like a S shaped needle myself.


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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: ] #1098453
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LOL @ TexA, guess there's 3 ways now, just do it to get by, do it the easy way or do it right !!


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Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: ] #1098629
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Originally Posted By: TexA
Why spend a whole lot of time messing with a holey pelt when it can be closed-up with a couple simple pins or stitches?

All the messing around isn't going to make the hole any smaller.
It will still be there when the pelt is tanned and they will sew it together on a finished product and no one will ever know it.

Do whatever it takes smile


Which brings up an interesting question. If you sew a hide together with dental floss, and then it gets through the tanner and on to the garment manufacturer, are they going to leave the dental floss in or take it out and have it professionally sewed? Seems to me they'll redo it, like Tex said. Doubt they are going to sell a $2000 coat with a bobcat collar stitched up with dental floss.

Re: Pelt Sewing Question [Re: ] #1098636
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On boards I tack it closed as my fingers are so clubby I can't sew very well.

Guess surgery ain't my forte.

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